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I don't 'believe' that an employer violates the Constitution by prohibiting its employees from having firearms on company property. --- A company can regulate the carrying of arms by its employees on the jobsite, certainly.

An employer violates the Constitution by in effect prohibiting its employees from having firearms while driving to and from work.
Thus, employees who park on company property must be allowed to lock weapons in their cars.

Plenty of companies have implemented just such prohibitions, despite protests. -- That's why the Oklahoma state legislature passed a law to prevent companies from doing just that - because the action of the companies is not Constitutional.
- If the companies actions were Constitutionally correct, no law would be required to forbid the practice.

364 jonestown

Constitutional actions can be banned by law.

And, as has been mentioned many times, until you realize that the Constitution does not deal with private actors, all your other arguments are simply wrong.
369 Modernman

If the company's actions are constitututional, then the ONLY way to forbid their actions is through passing a law.

The use of positive law to forbid something is required if it isn't inherently forbidden by the Constitution.

Until you two realize that the Constitution applies to "private actors", all your other arguments are simply wrong.

Companies that forbid employees from locking weapons in their cars are, in effect, infringing on that employees RKBA's.

Company executives & lawyers differ, and people are fired, necessitating laws to settle the issue.

Companies that forbid employees from locking weapons in their cars are, in effect, infringing on that employees RKBA's.

The company is not stopping you from carrying firearms in your car. They're just stopping you from doing so while on their property. Park elsewhere if such a rule is too onerous, or quit. Nobody is required to help you enjoy your rights.

So let me get this strait, your RKBA are infringed when the employer does not allow guns to be in your personal vehicle? Well what about the government then, do they have the right to not allow you into a government parking lot for the same reason? Is Uncle Sam denying your RKBA when you are in your personal auto, on GOVERNMENT PROPERTY????. Of course the answer is yes the government DOES have the right to disallow you to park you car on government property with a weapon safely locked in your car. Now if the Government can disallow you to park on their property with a gun locked in your car, why can't the private employer do likewise? Oh and if you think the Government does not have the right to prevent you from parking your car in a government parking lot, try entering just about any Military base with a gun locked in your car, when it is detected, you should expect to be immediately arrested.

Until you two realize that the Constitution applies to "private actors", all your other arguments are simply wrong.

So you'd have no problem with me carrying a firearm in your home? How will you like it when I protest President Bush on your front yard? You'll no doubt support my First Amendment right to do so. Right?