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To: Kolokotronis
The solution is for one side or the other to finally and absolutely win.

I hope not. Having either side "win" simply means then waiting again until the other side is stong enough for their turn to win. Given the opposite poles from which each side approaches the issue, its certainly not going to be easy to solve another way. And as Miss Durham (great read!) discusses in her book, these are longstanding problems. I'd like to think we can do better than that, however. The ongoing "standards before status" concept I think is a good one.

90 posted on 12/11/2004 3:17:47 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf; kosta50

"I hope not. Having either side "win" simply means then waiting again until the other side is stong enough for their turn to win."

The idea would be to keep anyone from the "outside" from interfering for as long as possible. Of course, the world is a lot smaller these days and the "outside" a lot closer than before. The real problem, whether anyone in the West wants to admit it or not is that outposts of Islam in Europe simply will continue to be festering sores of a lingering Turkish infection unless and until the Mohammadens are removed, perhaps in a population exchange, as un pc as that most assurdely is. Christianity and Islam have never coexisted comfortably in the Balkans save when one or the other is in a state of dhiminitude. The same goes for the Middle East. The Orthodox Christians of the Balkans have a 500 year history of dhiminitude. They won't let it happen again. It is just that simple. Islam cannot exist, even in its most secular, modern Turkish fashion, without dhiminitude of some fashion for its non-Mohammaden citizens. In fact, the Islam of today, unlike that under the Caliphates, is actually more oppressive than in most former times.

The West can't have it both ways. Either Islam is removed from Europe, or the intercommunal killing continues. Thus far, in the Balkans, the West has chosen Islam. Wrong choice in my opinion and one which which will either lead to greater butchery in the near term or subjugation of Western Europe to Islam in the not so near future. If the latter happens, the Balkans won't care. All the Christians will already be dead in battle.


91 posted on 12/11/2004 3:40:42 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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