My question made no assumptions. It was merely asking for clarification
I raised the question about the Khmer Rouge and their victims in response to post #335:
And you ignore the answers that no one is worthy to be saved.
That didn't sound like it was meant very kindly, so I presented the poster with a real life example of what his beliefs might entail. And yes, the Khmer Rouge question does seem to give people trouble.
I can see where it troubles nonbelievers who don't understand election.
So when I happen to see a poster play the Hell card, I'm going to play the Khmer card and folks will just have to deal with it or ignore my posts.
Thats fine, but you ignore the many arguments that its no problem for Judaism or Christianity. You act like theologians never considered what you raise as an issue. Its actually a rather childish objection that is brought up by the average Sunday school kid in one form or another. It is not unique. It is usually described as "Why do bad things happen to good people ?". It isn't a logical reason to dismiss the existence of God or Christianity. If it was, Christianity would have been dismissed 1,970 years ago.
I guess I could be called a Deist. I don't know the nature of God or the afterlife, but I think both exist.
How do you know God exists? more importantly, how do you know there is an afterlife. This was no evident to Hebrews and was a fairly new revelation. Its odd that you except as true part of the revelation of the Gospel and reject the rest. Very odd.
I see no reason for an all powerfully and loving God to create beings and allow them to be tortured forever.
I agree. It would be torture to exist forever with a God that one doesn't want to be obedient to. It would be like having the worst college roommate ever for eternity. Death would be preferable.
An observation. You refer to God as a loving God often. This surprised me because a deist would not ascribe such characteristics to God. Do you figure that a God could not be a loving God because he allows some to have eternal life but not everyone ?
I guess you would part ways with Judaism and Christianity at the moment Adam sinned and God presented the consequences, namely death to Adam. Your idea of a loving God would have been to accept that Adam sinned and give him a pass and just skip this whole earth thing. It is an appealing thought. The only problem I have is the chaos that would ensue in heaven where eternal beings filled with sin would make our earthly sinful lives look idyllic. Heaven would become hell.
How can you say that? I said several times that Scripture dooms the Khmer victims to Hell. I'm having a devil of a time getting people to admit that.
Ken H wrote: And yes, the Khmer Rouge question does seem to give people trouble.
I can see where it troubles nonbelievers who don't understand election.
Does that mean the Khmer victims chose their fate, or were they just not elected?
How do you know God exists? more importantly, how do you know there is an afterlife.
I don't. You asked and I told you what I thought. Am I 100% sure? No.
I guess you would part ways with Judaism and Christianity at the moment Adam sinned and God presented the consequences, namely death to Adam. Your idea of a loving God would have been to accept that Adam sinned and give him a pass and just skip this whole earth thing. It is an appealing thought. The only problem I have is the chaos that would ensue in heaven where eternal beings filled with sin would make our earthly sinful lives look idyllic. Heaven would become hell.
Zoning laws and homeowners associations would help, but good luck finding a lawyer to draw up the papers.