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To: ClancyJ
Why do I have to prove God exists to you?

Well, actually, you don't. Now, if you want me to accept your assertion, you'll have to give me evidence, but otherwise I could care less.

You have been exposed to His word - if you chose to discard it and latch onto science, evolution that is your choice.

Woah, where did science and evolution enter into this? And you're presupposing the existence of 'His' word and presupposing that you happen to know exactly what that word is. More unfounded assertions and two red herrings.

You could really benefit from an intro to logic course.

I've always been amused at the evolution vs creation arguments. Seems man cannot believe that God would use evolution as a means of creation.

From your statement, I can only conclude that you are lying when you claim that you have read evolution vs. creation arguments. Even here on FR, a number of people have claimed to believe that also.
331 posted on 12/10/2004 9:46:57 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

Looks like we won't be able to discuss this - I am far too inferior for discussions with you.

But, why do I have to delve into arguments of evolution vs creation to prove my own beliefs? You see - I do not believe in the ultimate validity of evolution without a creator to start the process. I do not think science is a higher authority than God. I believe that God created the science as the science evolves from understanding the workings of God's creations.

I understand that there are many who hold on to any excuse to prevent or mock belief. Why should I care what they think about my willingness to believe? Are they superior to those that have faith in their creator?

God does not become God based on your understanding of his creations. You become a believer based on your understandings of the methods of God's creations.

Belief in God is for all people whether scientists, natives, or bums. Belief in God is a matter of faith. Scientists, and highly educated people believe they have to have proof - which circumvents faith and, in fact, puts them in the position of judging whether God is worthy of their belief. They search and delve in arguments to prove He is not.

What should God think of their efforts? Who would be the more valued believer - the street bum who merely accepts Him on faith or the scientist who spends his career espousing exposure of the fallacies of belief to come to a final decision to believe (after years of persuading others against belief)?


346 posted on 12/11/2004 9:29:40 AM PST by ClancyJ (Middle America is what makes America - not the Liberal "elitists" and the Media)
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