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Famous Athiest Now Believes in God.
Newsmax.com ^ | December 9, 2004. | Newsmax.com

Posted on 12/09/2004 2:20:12 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.

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Science itself states that one can not get something form nothing. This is why when even athiests really examine it, some do indeed tend to conclude that there must have been an intelligent design.
1 posted on 12/09/2004 2:20:12 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

Foxhole convert?


2 posted on 12/09/2004 2:23:26 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

It took him to 81 to realize that? Bah, I'd reached that conclusion by my late 20s. I'm not a person of faith and am highly skeptical of the Old and New Testaments (and the Koran, and every other so-called holy book) but I do not believe the theory that random mutation and natural selection are solely responsible for the diversity of life as it exists today. And it revolts me that this dubious proposition is itself accepted as an article of faith by the so-called intellgentsia, with skepticism treated as heresy.


3 posted on 12/09/2004 2:23:59 PM PST by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

BTTT


4 posted on 12/09/2004 2:24:18 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
A senile old man with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel is your icon for deathbed conversions?
5 posted on 12/09/2004 2:24:51 PM PST by balrog666 (The invisible and the nonexistent look very much alike.)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
As he approaches death, believing in a GOD allows one to "cover his bets". He really doesn't know much about the God of Abraham, although he seems to know something about Allah...
6 posted on 12/09/2004 2:25:08 PM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke.


7 posted on 12/09/2004 2:25:49 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe.

Amazing...it's taken 81 years for this asshole to recognize an obvious, basic fact. Strange, what passes for elite intelligensia.

8 posted on 12/09/2004 2:26:43 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

Wow. It's not a conversion but it's something.


9 posted on 12/09/2004 2:26:48 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Edgerunner

What most scientists forget to remember about science is that there are rules and patterns. Else, why study it if it is completely random? Science is about writing down and understanding what is going on. For everything to be random defeats the purpose of science.


10 posted on 12/09/2004 2:27:59 PM PST by MinstrelBoy (What will you do without freedom?!)
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To: randog
Perhaps he heard me coming......


11 posted on 12/09/2004 2:28:47 PM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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He really doesn't know much about the God of Abraham...

I was thinking the same thing. Being the son of a minister, one wonders just what he was taught about God as a child?

12 posted on 12/09/2004 2:28:55 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Belief in god makese a helluva lot more sense than believing in the UN.
13 posted on 12/09/2004 2:29:06 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: D-fendr

Hmmm.


14 posted on 12/09/2004 2:29:25 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

For what it's worth:

I was brought up in the reform Jewish tradition, Bar Mitzvah’d in 1963 and confirmed in 1964. During high school, I began dabbling in Hinduism (studying the Bagavhad Gita, reading Siddhartha and learning to play the sitar). I subsequently became a confirmed atheist, and remained so for almost two decades.

During the 1980s, my layman’s interest in physics, particularly my efforts to understand the theories of Albert Einstein, led me to contemplate the implications of the unified field theory -- a single mathematical equation that describes every process in the universe.

Einstein spent the last years of his life trying unsuccessfully to discover that formula, and although modern physics has yet to establish this Holy Grail of everything, I believe that it will one day be found. Stephen Hawkings has said that the discovery of this formula would be equivalent to “reading the mind of God.”

Through such readings, I eventually came to realize that the entire universe, which at the subatomic level is not solid, is nothing more than one incredible concept. To me that fact implies a single, universal mind at the core of creation. Once I had that insight, I felt I could no longer scientifically justify my atheism – especially since at about the same time, while I was training for my black belt in Korean Zen Sword, I began to notice that when modern physicists try to put their mathematical formulas into English, they end up sounding a lot like Zen Buddhists.

Of course, try as I might, I really couldn’t grasp the implications of all this intellectually since it really can’t be done. But in the early ‘90s, reeling from a great personal, professional and familial disaster, the only way I could find comfort was by spending hours alone in the famous Mt. Auburn Cemetery, where day after day I would walk among the tombstones or sit in the chapel sobbing and praying out loud for relief from my great pain. I experienced the healing that I felt there as finding my connection to God on a heart level.

To this day, when I feel the need for spiritual renewal, I head to the nearest cemetery by myself and pray to God for strength, wisdom, courage and guidance.

So when asked today what my religion is, I tell people that I am a “Cemeterian.”


15 posted on 12/09/2004 2:30:22 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Oops! Another target for Islamofascist, Satan worshiping, Muzzle-em head choppig monsters !!!
16 posted on 12/09/2004 2:31:09 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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Through such readings, I eventually came to realize that the entire universe, which at the subatomic level is not solid, is nothing more than one incredible concept. To me that fact implies a single, universal mind at the core of creation.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'realize', 'concept', and 'universal mind' in this passage. You have every right to use such words, but when you stretch them beyond their ordinary significations, it might be a good idea to explain yourself more fully.

17 posted on 12/09/2004 2:34:46 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Certainly makes all the brilliant minds of the last 5000 years who had faith in a Creator without the benefit of modern science look foolish. How could they have been so presumptive, so rash?

Sounds like a 'cover your bets' faith to me since he's hit his 4th score.
18 posted on 12/09/2004 2:34:50 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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As he approaches death, believing in a GOD allows one to "cover his bets".

Not really. He doesn't believe in a God who is personally involved in his life and he believes that when you die, that's all there is.

That's hardly a man who has taken Pascal's wager.

The very existence of matter and its conservation is empirical proof that there is a God - which Flew is conceding.

19 posted on 12/09/2004 2:35:35 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Maceman

Thanks for sharing. That's quite a testimony.


20 posted on 12/09/2004 2:37:20 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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