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To: Modernman

>>so long as their actions do not harm the person or property of another>>

And you, in your wisdom, KNOW that none of this harms anyone, eh?

Try walking in the shoes of female, pal..(not literally please, not a pretty picture..:[)

Little girls that live in houses with porn addicted males --school girls that are pressured by porn addicted boys--females like me that have to endure in the in-your-face insult and power grab of some angry male flaunting a graphic gynecological centerfold right next to me (and the other decent women)--on the train--you're so out to lunch it is terrifying.

Males like you have abandoned the concept of grace and dignity--and any molecule of consideration for us, your gender complement. You treat us like we are the enemy--to be denigrated and objectified for your enjoyment in the worst possible ways.

It is so heartbreaking that you do not have the empathy to see this.

It harms us PLENTY.

Get out of your narcisstic single-view and maybe you can experience some enlightenmen.


476 posted on 12/10/2004 8:22:02 AM PST by dascallie
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To: dascallie
And you, in your wisdom, KNOW that none of this harms anyone, eh?

Adults watching porn in private, in of itself, does not harm any third parties. I challenge you to provide evidence to the contrary.

Little girls that live in houses with porn addicted males

If they're showing porn to kids, that's a crime. Prosecute them.

school girls that are pressured by porn addicted boys

If someone forces another to have sex, that is a crime. Prosecute them.

females like me that have to endure in the in-your-face insult and power grab of some angry male flaunting a graphic gynecological centerfold right next to me (and the other decent women)--on the train

Forcing others to view porn against their consent is a crime. Prosecute the offenders.

You are throwing out strawmen so fast it's amazing. None of these activities you've described fall into my definition of what type of porn use is acceptable, i.e. use of porn by consenting adults in the privacy of their own home or in an a location where all the other people involved also consent (such as a party or nigthclub).

Males like you have abandoned the concept of grace and dignity--and any molecule of consideration for us, your gender complement. You treat us like we are the enemy--to be denigrated and objectified for your enjoyment in the worst possible ways.

You combine an ad hominem attack with quasi-feminist notions that the women involved in porn are incapable of making their own decisions.

And, I have never said that forcing porn on anyone is acceptable or legal. Quite the opposite, actually.

It harms us PLENTY.

You must be pretty delicate to be harmed by other adults' consenting private activities.

479 posted on 12/10/2004 8:31:37 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: dascallie
Males like you have abandoned the concept of grace and dignity--and any molecule of consideration for us, your gender complement. You treat us like we are the enemy--to be denigrated and objectified for your enjoyment in the worst possible ways. It is so heartbreaking that you do not have the empathy to see this.


Amen, sister! I almost get the feeling that some guys are so stridently defending smut because they are avid consumers of said smut.

480 posted on 12/10/2004 8:34:31 AM PST by freeparella ("...You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ.”)
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