Pornography Is Anything But A Victimless Crime

Concerned Women For America ^ | Dec. 8, 2004 | Cheri Pierson Yecke

[Modernman]

I'm always terribly disappointed when my wife hangs out with her female friends and it doesn't turn into a giant pillow fight.

The Fates are cruel.

[Armando Guerra]

I think I'm addicted to my hot, perverted, girlfriend.... Is that bad?

Yes. Marry her and then it is okay.

[Melas]

To me it's all a form of pornography, the Victoria's Secret catalogue, the fashion show, Miss America, Miss Universe, and women’s beach volleyball. They're all designed to elicit prurient interest in women's bodies. While they're at it, the women's groups should protest the Victoria's Secret TV commericals. Those chicks are half naked, for goodness sake!

Is there anything you don't believe is form of pornography? You've pretty much confirmed my suspicion that to the many on this thread, anything involving a semi-attractive woman is porn. Only Helen Thomas can be safely viewed.

[NJ_gent]

Indeed, yet this face inevitably gets plastered on the word 'conservative' and is used to beat people like you and me over the head.

[expatguy]

Post some pictures already and let someone else be the judge.

[Melas]

Or else we'll all turn into uncontrollable criminals.

Ah screw it. Feed my inner criminal.

[G32]

What's a mazel?

[Modernman]

Why is killing illegal? Because the people have deemed that it is morally reprehensible. Why is theft illegal? Because the people find it morally wrong.

Those activities harm the person or property of another without their consent. That's why they are illegal.

Porn harms no rights. That's why it cannot be made illegal.

[dascallie]

Show the stats on the breakdown of marriage and societal mores.

[madprof98]

The production of pornographic imagery does not constitute a "private activity between consenting adults."

Excellent point! Obviously, the production of porn is most akin to prostitution. It's sex for money. I don't understand why it is possible to forbid prostitution and (seemingly) impossible to shut down the porn operations. (I'm aware, of course, that plenty of FReepers would like to see the USA turned into Amsterdam, but evidently our activist courts have not yet required that we permit sex for money here.)

[dascallie]

BIG WRONG.

[TChris]

That's sort of like rounding an estimate - the answer just becomes increasingly inaccurate and imprecise as you add levels of abstraction to reach it.

While this may be more or less true, people's own experience, whether personal or that of a family member, bear out the truth of it. Anyone who has had a heavy-duty pornography user in their family, or been one, will tell you that it changes a person. It's just a fact.

[Politicalities]

I advanced my "real" argument--porn is destructive--how many ways do you have to hear it??

Even if I were to stipulate to that... so freakin' what? Smoking is destructive. Fatty food is destructive. Each person decides whether the risk to his health of smoking or eating one of these is worth the enjoyment he derives from it. It's this thing called freedom... perhaps you've heard of it.

[najida]

I've heard that repeated time and time again but never a shred of evidence. As someone who's viewed porn, and someone who's had real sex, let me be the first to state for the record that there is no comparison at all.

When women get together, it is a common grouse, complaint or k'vetch. And I personally have had relationships that were effected in one way or another.

As a geezerette, I am noting an escalation in mis-informed expectations and downright cluelessness. But I haven't done a double blind study with a signification statistical population starting with lab rats and progressing to couples in 4237 cities running for 5 years :)

[Melas]

Well, except for the bisexual part, I think I married that woman.

[ContemptofCourt]

Am I going to go to hell for masterbating as well? Just curious.

I love people that talk about how evil something is, but just can't not look at it...kinda like the Stern haters that have to listen to him b/c he is such a heathen....

Your problem is your overgeneralization of the issue. Not all porn watchers are social deviants....sorry to disappoint you.

[NJ_gent]

"The production of pornographic imagery does not constitute a "private activity between consenting adults.""

• Does the activity take place in a private (not publicly-owned) location? Check
  
  
• Is it indeed an activity at all? Check
  
  
• Are the individuals involved in the activity doing so voluntarily? Check
  
  
• Are the individuals involved in the activity of the age of majority? Check

What's that spell? It spells out a private act between consenting adults.

[dascallie]

Thx for the thoughtful response.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Only Helen Thomas can be safely viewed.

Yes, but then there are other risks...

[najida]

Or they all don't jump into the shower together with a bottle of Tupelo honey ;)