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RUMSFELD SET UP; REPORTER PLANTED QUESTIONS WITH SOLDIER (DRUDGE SIREN)
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Posted on 12/09/2004 9:22:17 AM PST by Nascardude

Edited on 12/09/2004 10:05:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: highlandbreeze
Funny, sent my husband to Afghanistan and he had body armour. So, I guess I'm a little confused as to why the soldiers families need to buy them armour. Do explain.

Sure will. The boys wrote home that they were not issued body amour. They asked if we could do anything. We bought 2 sets and had them shipped. That is about as simple as I can make it. Confusing aint it.

621 posted on 12/09/2004 1:23:00 PM PST by Quinton
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To: notigar

My old unit, a light towed artillery unit, the troops would have cheered the SecDef.
We had an odd lib in the unit.
Only in my unit it was our Captain.


622 posted on 12/09/2004 1:23:28 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey! This troll tastes like Arugala! I HATE arugala!)
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To: Walkin Man

I saw the tape and many more were not clapping the were clapping. Most of the soldiers did not clap.

Wear is a risk, and the contract when one is inducted, does not promis a rose Garden or Armor plated vehicles to all who ride.

Ops4 God Bless America!


623 posted on 12/09/2004 1:23:49 PM PST by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: Williams
I also resent having to defend myself as an accused commie because I came down on the side of our TROOPS. I think some people are missing the fact that for all the reporter's prodding an AMERICAN SOLDIER is the one who asked this question of his Secretary of Defense. The soldier is an adult fighting man with free will. He didn't ask to withdraw from Iraq, he asked for some equipment to do his job.

That is a good point and the media will never see it that way. Just about everyone I have ever deployed with always wanted the best, latest and greatest equiptment. We don't always get it so you have to make do with what you got. I don't blame the soldier and I didn't like the way he phrased the question. He should of came out point blank and asked if they were going to get extra armor for their Humvees.


624 posted on 12/09/2004 1:24:37 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: notigar; Darksheare
SEC. RUMSFELD: The other day, after there was a big threat alert in Washington, D.C. in connection with the elections, as I recall, I looked outside the Pentagon and there were six or eight up-armored humvees. They’re not there anymore. [Cheers] [Applause] They’re en route out here, I can assure you. Next. Way in the back. Yes.

Ok I read the transcript and in regards to the question about the Humvees and armor after his answer this is the only part that i found refrencing any cheering... is that what you are refering to?

625 posted on 12/09/2004 1:25:45 PM PST by Americanwolf (Democratic Underground... Digital Crack for the the loony left.....Hey troll! Put the pipe down!)
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To: Quinton

Thanks.


626 posted on 12/09/2004 1:25:46 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: churchillbuff

You miss the point. We don't mind debating, spending more money, or whatever for the troops we do not trust the media or their motives. The MSM DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE TROOPS ONLY THE DESTRUCTION OF BUSH!!!! understand now?


627 posted on 12/09/2004 1:26:28 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Nascardude
Let's seeeeee.....

So far this week we've had the deserter who's looking for asylum in Canada and making speeches which appear to have been written by John Kerry.

A leaked letter from the Pentagon alleging that our special operations forces are using force to capture armed combatants, rather than saying "pretty pleathe, Mr. terroritht thir, give us your weaponth and come with uth. We'll take you to a nithe, air contithioned fathility where we have good food and Ginger Rogerth/Fred Athtair marathons twice a week! You'll jutht LUV it there! No kicking, scratthing or biting now, pleathe", in violation of the Geneva Convention.

Now a rerun of M*A*S*H started by a snot nosed reporter and about to be blown to TITANIC proportions by the mass media.

Does this all smell choreographed to anyone else?

628 posted on 12/09/2004 1:27:11 PM PST by cake_crumb (Goal of the Left="One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: churchillbuff

Read post 625.. I read the transcirpt and that was the only reference that i found in regards to cheering after the armored humvee question.


629 posted on 12/09/2004 1:27:31 PM PST by Americanwolf (Democratic Underground... Digital Crack for the the loony left.....Hey troll! Put the pipe down!)
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To: Cheetah1
Did anyone in here actually stop to think

Yes, most of us did and have been following this story since yesterday. When you catch up and give it some thought yourself, I look forward to more measured and less kneejerk responses from you.

Since you asked and all...

630 posted on 12/09/2004 1:28:17 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Americanwolf

yes, that's what I'm referring to.


631 posted on 12/09/2004 1:28:46 PM PST by notigar
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To: SierraWasp
I am not anybody's tool. I am more than willing to concede that not all vehicles should be armored, that armored vehicles are available, that the press is using this, that there are production problems, that it is being dealt with.

BUT a soldier still got up and asked it, there was some applause from other soldiers, Rumsfeld admitted some type of problem.

I am not willing to take it out on the troops because the press is left wing. To whatever extent a problem exists, let's apply more resources to fix it because we have a volunteer force and we don't need any supply or morale problems.

I support Bush, Rumsfeld, and the troops. Even Rush Limbaugh put a veteran on who argued the troops need this solved and Rush mainly countered only with the liberal media's misuse of the story. He did NOT argue with what the veteran said re the equipment.

632 posted on 12/09/2004 1:29:24 PM PST by Williams
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To: gimme1ibertee

It wasn't a cavalier response. That's at the heart of the misrepresentation.


633 posted on 12/09/2004 1:29:24 PM PST by johnb838 (Killmore.)
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To: Americanwolf

The applause line.


634 posted on 12/09/2004 1:29:30 PM PST by notigar
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To: prairiebreeze
"It's getting hard to tell who is becoming more hysterical as the time draws closer to the Iraqi elections, the terrorists pukes or the media pukes."

Yes... quite a cresendo, isn't it? It's getting so predictable, especially since Vietnam! The whole MSM establishment just yearns and longs for another victory over the despised military and it's civilian leaders like Vietnam. They are absolutely obsessed with it and with blowing Bush out of the saddle!!!

They refuse to see what an exceptional military we have and then when they realize it, they try to "bring it all down, man!" (shouted by a Berkeley Hippie Demonstrator in the early 70's) They further refuse to see what an exceptional nation America is and has been from the beginning!!!

635 posted on 12/09/2004 1:29:31 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: notigar; Darksheare

From what I read of that it was cheering the fact that the Humvees were on the way to the battlefield..not the fact that the soldier ask that question...


636 posted on 12/09/2004 1:29:55 PM PST by Americanwolf (Democratic Underground... Digital Crack for the the loony left.....Hey troll! Put the pipe down!)
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To: Nascardude

rush quoted him as saying "my best day in journalism ever" his boss should say "your LAST day in journalism ever"


637 posted on 12/09/2004 1:30:56 PM PST by isom35
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To: churchillbuff

I agree. I have no problem with the reporter getting the soldier to ask the question. I did not like the answers Rumsfeld gave either. I like Rumsfeld, but he attempted to make excuses. There is absolutley no reason why our troops should be going through piles of garbage looking for scrap metal to protect themselves (although, this should make liberals happy as the military is recycling). There are billions being spent on this war & those vehicles should be fully armored & all troops should have kevlar vests.


638 posted on 12/09/2004 1:30:58 PM PST by Feiny (Say it LOUD & PROUD....MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!)
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To: Williams
Things go wrong in war, there are shortages, and you use what you have. All agreed, BUT we've been there years now, the story is not new, and this is the richest nation on Earth. Okay I admit that I misread your statement. Now define been there years when the war was started until March 2003. It will not be two years until March when the war was started.
639 posted on 12/09/2004 1:31:02 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans Articles = GIM=GAY INFECTED MEDIOTS!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Excellent post. It goes to the heart of the matter.

How about the trillions spent to keep the welfare mob and their pimps well-fed, clothed and housed?

This would be better spent on our military.


640 posted on 12/09/2004 1:31:06 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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