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RUMSFELD SET UP; REPORTER PLANTED QUESTIONS WITH SOLDIER (DRUDGE SIREN)
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Posted on 12/09/2004 9:22:17 AM PST by Nascardude

Edited on 12/09/2004 10:05:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Williams

You are not being realistic. Your heart is in the right place but you simply don't understand the time it takes to adjust to unorthodox warfare.


581 posted on 12/09/2004 1:08:15 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Steel Wolf

Now you've done it. Introduced facts and reason. Boy are you going to get it.


582 posted on 12/09/2004 1:08:44 PM PST by marty60
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To: Destro

You don't get the point. The question is irrelevent. What is important is the selective USE of the question by the lyin' PoS who make up the RATmedia. Provision of appropriate armour is the least of its concerns at the top of which is the desire to undermine the President. THAT is why the soldier was prepped with the question not ANY concern for the safety of our soldiers.


583 posted on 12/09/2004 1:08:44 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Americanwolf; Darksheare

Is the Dept. of Defense transcript no good?


584 posted on 12/09/2004 1:09:11 PM PST by notigar
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To: Nascardude
So. . .a reporter writing questions for the soldiers and making sure that those questions get asked. Doesn't sound like good journalism to me - sounds like someone with an axe to grind.

The paper he works for ought to fire him for these kinds of tactics, but since most papers are liberal, it's not likely to happen. (He'll actually probably get a raise.)

By the way, I thought Rummy did pretty good in answering the question.

585 posted on 12/09/2004 1:09:24 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Darksheare; All

Tommy Franks talking about this on Cavuto right now. Says Rummy has been asked these types of questions before. Says media's believability isn't something he'll comment on, LOL!

Says Rumsfeld will take the question to heart. But that he's sure Rumsfeld wasn't angry about the question.


586 posted on 12/09/2004 1:09:30 PM PST by prairiebreeze (It's my right to publically celebrate Christmas and state my faith in Christ. At least for now.....)
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To: prairiebreeze
It's getting hard to tell who is becoming more hysterical as the time draws closer to the Iraqi elections, the terrorists pukes or the media pukes.

The media pukes were in a tizzy right before the elections in Afghanistan

Haven't heard squat from them since the election ..

Why would that be???

Maybe because things are going better then the media wants?

587 posted on 12/09/2004 1:09:55 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: highlandbreeze
Where were all these people complaining about the lack of Armour when we were in Mogadishu(sp)? Oh, that's right, Saint Clinton was the Pres. Now, that Bush is in, whatever it takes to hurt him.

A....no. Untill the other day I had not heard a soldier in a war zone complain about lack of equipment on the evening news. Also I know for a fact that folks have been buying kevlar vests and sending to their kids who are serving over there, (we sent 2 to our nephews at a cost of $1.500 bucks) Kinda unheard of in my lifetime. I think its rather cheap of you to try and politicize the situation.

588 posted on 12/09/2004 1:10:36 PM PST by Quinton
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To: billbears
Go ahead, filter your news through the NY Times and I through FreeRepublic.com. Who do you think has more credibility, careful....

Take the MSM completely out of it and you still need the whole story which you do not have. If you choose to focus on this scumbag reporters story as complete you will be left in the same position viewers were left with when Dan Rather claimed he had a big story. My best answer to you is to back all the way up to the source of the problem if there is one. 87 BILLION dollars were allocated for the military and the war, what has taken place and what will take place with that money. What happened to the military before in the Clinton era and its effects on todays military. It could never should be as simple as one biased story seeking reporters claim. Last, during WWII would we have broadcast this information to Hilter?
589 posted on 12/09/2004 1:10:43 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Destro
We no longer have the industrial base to produce something that would have taken a weeks production in the old America.

Worse, America has no industrial platform to support new innovations in such areas as metallurgy. With the steel industry virtually wiped out, the technological base with which to advance into new metals and compounds that will be *the new industries of tomorrow* and essential for military superiority is gone too. Thus, America will have to turn to foreign suppliers for its needs.

This is where our short-sighted trade policies have put the future prosperity and security of America…Right up the Creek.

590 posted on 12/09/2004 1:10:56 PM PST by WRhine (When America ceases to make manufactured goods, what do we trade with the rest of the world?)
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To: Williams
"Getting better armor and glass is doable, and I want it done even if it's just one unit that needs it."

The figure out how to do it and send your ideas to Rummy. As I understand it, it is not a money problem but a production problem.

591 posted on 12/09/2004 1:11:01 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: notigar

Let's just say this:

The soldiers I know and served with would have been cheering Rumsfeld before he even spoke.


592 posted on 12/09/2004 1:11:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey! This troll tastes like Arugala! I HATE arugala!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

It's not about money.


593 posted on 12/09/2004 1:11:25 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: darkwing104

I know you are, it's just hard to get through to some.


594 posted on 12/09/2004 1:11:45 PM PST by marty60
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To: marty60
Yeah by focusing the terrorists on the Humvees, even more than they already are. Maybe they'll use 6 RPG's against the upgraded ones. Rather than 1 or 2.

Great post and a very good assessment of the enemy's response. Good work.


595 posted on 12/09/2004 1:12:25 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Williams; Grampa Dave
What you don't seem to understand, is what Rush pointed out today. Employee gripe sessions are normal and legitimate, but not with the embedded presstitutes there to practice treachery, report and twist and inflame the passions of the MSM to embarrass and smear the whole operation at the possible expense of victory... Just like they did in Vietnam!!!

As Rush pointed out, they're already pist because there's not enough deaths from this action they disagree with. So ease up and don't become their tool. We all support our troops here and you most assuredly know that. So stop agitating. What you are concerned about will be handled without your falling for this reporter's cheap stunt!!!

596 posted on 12/09/2004 1:12:27 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: jpsb

Awww, poor baby. Have they taken all the bonafide lunatics off the air in your area?


597 posted on 12/09/2004 1:12:30 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Darksheare

Now its you that isn't answering the question.


598 posted on 12/09/2004 1:12:35 PM PST by notigar
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To: Grampa Dave

".......under JFK and LBJ when I served. We found ways to get around it."

The only "armor" I ever saw on wheeled vehicles in 67-68 was a layer of sandbags on the floorboards.

Its nice that factory-produced "armor" is being retrofitted, but this whole issue is a tribute to the 'field expedience' of the American GI, which is what gave rise to DOD production of armor retrofits in the first place.


599 posted on 12/09/2004 1:13:24 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Nascardude

If it gets better hardware to our troops, I guess I don't care how it was done.


600 posted on 12/09/2004 1:13:28 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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