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Zogby Polling Seeks Damage Control After Election Day Flub
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 12/09/04 | Marc Morano

Posted on 12/09/2004 2:21:14 AM PST by kattracks

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To: kattracks; Dales; Coop; commish; Common Tator

Zogby only called 1 election correctly in his entire history, and it is readily apparent that his 1 correct call was pure coincidence.

He's always been a tool of the far left. He's always associated with the far left. He's always lied. McBride was never ahead of Jeb in 2002, for instance. Virginia was never "too close to call" in 2004, either.

Zogby is not the worst pollster, however. Even as bad as Zogby polls, there are two other firms that poll worse.

But there are a dozen polling firms that are more accurate than Zogby year in and year out...leaving one to conclude that the only reason to hire Zogby is to have him tell you whatever it is that you want to hear.

He's a tool. You pay to have him validate whatever nonsense more reputable pollsters won't say for lack of data (or conflicting data).

121 posted on 12/09/2004 10:41:00 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: kattracks

Zogby used to have a great reputation. He has suffered quite the fall ... all self-inflcited.


122 posted on 12/09/2004 10:47:26 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: kattracks

Too late. Next election, let's remember this so when somebody says "What did Zogby say in 2004," we will remember.


123 posted on 12/09/2004 11:13:09 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: kattracks
and in Ohio, as with other swing states, the automated Diebolt machines were particularly disturbing because they offered no voting receipts" she said.

I thought it's been proved that they don't even use Deibold machines in Ohio, or am I wrong on that?

But, whatever. What this all boils down to is that Zogby has been proven to be an innacurate pollster who's work can't be trusted, and so rather than risk the loss of his "reputation", he joins the "Vote Fraud" bandwagon to cover his ass.

Up yours, Zogby, you hack.

124 posted on 12/09/2004 11:29:22 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: itsinthebag
My word. Where does one start? Do these people live on another planet? Where in the world had they been for the last year? Did anyone ever hear that there were two election days? As far as I can remember, election day has always been the first Tuesday in November. Aren't these people educated on election procedures by their precints? This woman has got to be lying.

Either that, or they saw my flyers... ;0)

heh heh heh

125 posted on 12/09/2004 11:31:53 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: Southack
Zogby only called 1 election correctly in his entire history

I guess that makes him the Jeanne Dixon of pollsters. You only need to get a prediction right once and you can live off the fame the rest of your life, no matter how off the wall your other predictions are.

126 posted on 12/09/2004 11:38:32 AM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: John W
bumper sticker slogan:

STUPID?   DON'T VOTE !

127 posted on 12/09/2004 12:01:00 PM PST by FreeKeys (If it isn't close THEY'LL CHEAT ANYWAY.)
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To: kattracks
and in Ohio, as with other swing states, the automated Diebolt machines were particularly disturbing because they offered no voting receipts

80% of Ohio ballots were cast via punch cards and I am guessing without proof that even if you threw out all the Diebold machine counts, Bush still wins.

128 posted on 12/09/2004 12:14:05 PM PST by staytrue
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To: rightinthemiddle

I did not. My intial post had nothing to do with Muslim or ethnic categories of any kind. I said to get on point then posted the point of Zogby and the left being psyco babbling losers.

Ops4 God BLess America!


129 posted on 12/09/2004 12:14:22 PM PST by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: kattracks
Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said Zogby polling may have crossed a line in its call for an investigation of the election results.

Didn't read thru all the replies, so I'm not sure anyone pointed this out ... Larry Sabato called the election for Kerry three or four days before Nov. 2nd.

131 posted on 12/09/2004 12:21:18 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: OPS4

You posted to me and asked me a question. I answered. Nananananana....

Zogby and the Left are psycho-babbling losers.

God Bless America.

I only fight with Democrats.


132 posted on 12/09/2004 12:24:06 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media is Enemy #1. The Bureaucracy is Enemy #1.5.)
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To: kattracks
Wow. Zogby drank too much of his special sauce.
133 posted on 12/09/2004 12:25:07 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Timeout

The first thing I would read in the evening paper each night when I was growing up was Li'l Abner!


134 posted on 12/09/2004 12:31:12 PM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: kattracks

Hey Zogby!

Does the name "Hindenberg" mean anything to ya? It should, because you've gone down in flames just like it did - only you're either too stupid to know it, or too proud (or desperate?) to admit it. See ya!


135 posted on 12/09/2004 12:38:09 PM PST by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: LibSnubber
Zogby

The Obsolete Media is joined by a Obsolete Pollster

136 posted on 12/09/2004 1:06:17 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: kattracks
Diebolt

It is spelled Diebold. If you can't even spell the name of the company, I will not listen to your sob story since I can't be sure anything you say is accurate.

137 posted on 12/09/2004 1:25:04 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: kattracks
Kat,

Nothing new here. Zogby has been cooking the polls for years. They all do, especially the NY Times. Republican Frank Luntz is as bad or worse.

It's like asking an accountant what 2+2 is... and the accountant's answer is......"What would you like it to me.....?"

Read Dick Morris' book "Off With Their Heads" for details.
138 posted on 12/09/2004 1:49:39 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: kattracks
Kat,

Nothing new here. Zogby has been cooking the polls for years. They all do, especially the NY Times. Republican Frank Luntz is as bad or worse.

It's like asking an accountant what 2+2 is... and the accountant's answer is......"What would you like it to me.....?"

Read Dick Morris' book "Off With Their Heads" for details.
139 posted on 12/09/2004 2:03:25 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: kattracks
If there was ever any doubt, it is now official, Zogby has "Jumped the Shark"!
140 posted on 12/09/2004 3:15:25 PM PST by Sthitch
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