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[COEXERJ145]

And had the Japanese Embassy in Washington been allowed to use their typists (who where Americans), they could have delivered the message earlier. Instead, they were ordered not to allow anyone other than the Japanese diplomats and their aids to read the message and none of them could type. This caused an even further delay in delivering their message.

Without a Declaration of War, Japan attacked the United States' Pacific Fleet on Sunday morning, December 7th, 1941. No matter what their intentions may have been, it was sneak attack (in classic Japanese fashion) but in the end was a strategic disaster for them. Pearl Harbor insured that the war in the Pacific would be a war to the death and they learned that the hard way on August 6th and 9th, 1945.

[oyez]

Maybe its time we laid the blame for the attack on Pearl Harbor on the Japanese.The Army didn't do it. The Navy didn't do it. FDR and the federal government didn't do it.

[Howlin]

I'll say it again: you post the best articles.

[konaice]

And we should believe this WHY??

Clearly this guy is on a mission to clear his Father's name
in the eyes of the US, (for God knows, the Japanese couldn't give a ratsass about this issue, and never have).

[Peach]

Doesn't the movie Tora Bora make it clear that the message was withheld?

[Billthedrill]

This isn't entirely news. The idea was, all along, to present the declaration of war such that there would be insufficient time to warn Pearl Harbor, but that would only be possible if everything in the communications chain went perfectly. To allow more time than that (from the Japanese military perspective) would be to risk everything going perfectly and actually allowing time for a warning. Hence they made sure their diplomats couldn't do that.

This, of course, put those poor guys on a seat so hot I wouldn't care to contemplate it. You can't get an uglier job than that as a diplomat. The presentation of that declaration prior to any bombs falling was their only real protection under international law, and it is a tribute to Roosevelt's restraint that he didn't have them shot when the bombs fell first.

It is laudable for the son to try to clear his father's name, but I don't think that name was really in question, at least in the United States. Whether the declaration was delayed by his incompetence is entirely irrelevant - he was set up from the beginning, and the bombs would have fallen anyway.

[CaptIsaacDavis]

Quaint isn't it. The notion that our government would get riled up by a country not declaring war first. That norm lasted for a few centuries to protect nations from such "sneek attacks." It's long gone now -- along with the rest of codified "international law," which is being plowed under by the terrorists of the International Criminal Court.

[onyx]

BUMP.
Marking place for tomorrow's read.

[Havoc]

Nice to see the honor of an innocent man restored. Doesn't much change anything else.

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[Route101]

...."but that the Imperial Army opposed revealing its hand, instead ordering that the message should simply terminate negotiations"......and Bill Clinton apologized for dropping the atom bombs....Sorry Charlie, no sympathy here.

[thegreatbeast]

Later

[ServesURight]

No biggie, we more than made up for Pearl Harbor: