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1st AD captain to face court-martial in shooting death (mercy killing?) of wounded Iraqi man
Stars & Stripes ^ | 8 Dec 04 | Jason Chudy and Kent Harris and The Associated Press

Posted on 12/08/2004 6:38:37 PM PST by xzins

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When a medic pulled the driver out of the car, it was clear he had suffered critical injuries, with part of his skull blown away, according to testimony during the Article 32 hearing.

Maynulet’s fellow officer, 1st Lt. Colin Cremin, testified that Maynulet told him he then shot the Iraqi in the base of the neck or the back of the head.

1 posted on 12/08/2004 6:38:37 PM PST by xzins
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This is a tough one, but if the story of the blown away skull is true, then I'm hesitant to be judgemental.

Does anyone know any examples of this kind of thing in other wars?

2 posted on 12/08/2004 6:39:56 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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judgmental


3 posted on 12/08/2004 6:40:25 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

"Don't shoot, let them burn!"


4 posted on 12/08/2004 6:40:44 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: xzins

Who preferred the charges?


5 posted on 12/08/2004 6:41:17 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

If I had to guess, since it sounds like Cpt Maynulet was open about it, that it was probably his battalion commander.


6 posted on 12/08/2004 6:43:09 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

The military lawyers should stay busy doing something more useful, like searching landfills for scrap armor. This situation is not right.


7 posted on 12/08/2004 6:43:12 PM PST by Ranger
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To: xzins

I can't cite any specific examples but have always suspected that it happens more frequently than reported.


8 posted on 12/08/2004 6:43:20 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis; Ranger

In one sense, it happens passively at every battlefield hospital in the triage area.

They have a group called the "expectants" that they intentionally don't treat because they're considered impossible to fix...they are expected to die. Therefore, they operate first on those who have a chance to live.

That's both enemy and FRIENDLY casualties.


9 posted on 12/08/2004 6:45:26 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

Appears infinitly more humane than sawing his head off with a dull knife.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 6:50:38 PM PST by DonnerT (Any job worth doing should be done to completion.)
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To: DonnerT

Absolutely no doubt about that.

The beheaded were in perfectly healthy condition.


11 posted on 12/08/2004 6:52:34 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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On the face of it, it sounds to me like he acted without malice, believing his action to be the only humane thing to be done.

Still, a courts martial may be the only way to really get the facts straight and documented. An acquittal in a courts martial would be the best thing for this soldier, since it means that the matter has been fully and fairly investigated.

It closes the matter. At least I hope that's where this is going.


12 posted on 12/08/2004 6:58:56 PM PST by Ramius (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: Ramius

Yep, me too. I agree with you.

I wasn't there. Thank the good Lord he didn't have an embed reporter along with him.


13 posted on 12/08/2004 7:00:31 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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Touh call. But to characterize this as an "assault to commit murder" is too much. It was in the heat of combat and he made a field decision. Drop the charges, return him to normal duty, and tell him that the next time, let nature take its course.


14 posted on 12/08/2004 7:00:57 PM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: xzins

Similar examples? Well, when I was taking Command & General Staff College course (1987) (think of this as the Army's version of a Masters Degree in Military Science), one of the readings we were assigned told the story of a British unit in Burma that had to leave some severely wounded behind. They had to retreat across difficult terrain. These wounded would not have survived the journey and would have suffered extremely none the less. The head doctor for the unit administered lethal doses of morphine knowing that the Japanese would use them for bayonet practice.

Is it routine? No. Does it happen? Yes. This officer's mistake was to talk about it afterwards. Very poor judgement on his part. Not only for his own sake but that of the officer he told. Telling his fellow officer was very unprofessional since it forced the fellow officer to either bring charges or to become an accomplice after the fact. One does not place your fellow officer in such a position.


15 posted on 12/08/2004 7:01:53 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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My impression was that the other officer was there, and was a witness. But even so, it does place that other officer in the awkward position that you describe. It has to be written up, or he puts himself at risk later.

It's tough. I really hope that the CM returns an acquittal if the facts are as reported. That's the right thing to do.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 7:12:52 PM PST by Ramius (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: Ramius

"Maynulet’s fellow officer, 1st Lt. Colin Cremin, testified that Maynulet told him he then shot the Iraqi in the base of the neck or the back of the head."


17 posted on 12/08/2004 7:16:15 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

Right!


18 posted on 12/08/2004 7:29:15 PM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: DugwayDuke

Ah! OK... very well then.


19 posted on 12/08/2004 7:30:21 PM PST by Ramius (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: rmmcdaniell

Yes! Private Ryan


20 posted on 12/08/2004 7:46:47 PM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE BLUE PIMPLE IN A SEA OF RED!)
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