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Comic Leads Campaign Against Religion Bill
Scotsman ^ | Mon 6 Dec 2004 | Neville Dean

Posted on 12/08/2004 2:42:43 PM PST by swilhelm73

Blackadder star Rowan Atkinson will lead a coalition of comedians, writers and academics today in opposition to a new Government Bill designed to punish extremists who incite religious hatred.

The group, which also includes MPs and representatives of the National Secular Society, is launching a campaign against elements of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill.

The Bill, due for its second reading this week, will create a new offence of incitement to religious hatred to protect faith groups – particularly Muslims – from hate attacks.

But the group believe that there are already enough laws to deal with extremists who incite violence or religious hatred.

They warn that the Bill risks undermining free speech, the freedom of satirists, comedians and writers, and legitimate discussion about religion and religious practices.

Atkinson will be joined for the launch of the campaign in Westminster this evening by columnist Joan Smith, human rights lawyer Anthony Lester QC and speakers from Christian groups the Barnabas Fund and the Lawyer’s Christian Fellowship.

Atkinson said: “Freedom of expression must be protected for artists and entertainers and we must not accept a bar on the lampooning of religion and religious leaders.

“There is an obvious difference between the behaviour of racist agitators who can be prosecuted under existing laws and the activities of satirists and writers who may choose to make comedy or criticism of religious belief, practices or leaders, just as they do with politics.”

Liberal Democrat MP Dr Evan Harris, who is chairing tonight’s meeting, said: “There is a great deal of concern about these proposals across political parties.

“There are already enough laws to deal with incitement to violence and to deal with disorderly behaviour based on religious grounds, but it is essential that we maintain free speech in discussing and criticising religious ideas, doctrines and practices.”

Paul Cook, advocate manager of the Barnabas Fund, added: “There is a real danger that this law could be used by extremists to silence organisations like ourselves from highlighting the persecution of Christians and other human rights abuses which occur within some religious communities.”

But a Home Office spokeswoman defended the Bill, insisting it would not interfere with the right to free speech.

She said: “There is a clear difference between criticism of a religion and the act of inciting hatred against members of a religious group.

“The incitement offences have a high criminal threshold and prosecutions require the consent of the Attorney General.

“There has not been a widespread sense that the existing offence has interfered with free speech and we are confident that an offence of incitement to religious hatred will not do so either.”


TOPICS: Government; United Kingdom
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I always liked Rowan Atkinson. His Blackadder series was brilliant.
1 posted on 12/08/2004 2:42:43 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

Clearly this law would be used to crack down on anyone who dares say any thing remotely negative about Islam and Muslims, whether in jest or in serious debate.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 2:44:23 PM PST by Aetius
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To: swilhelm73

I remember him from the Brit TV series NOT THE NINE O'CLOCK NEWS which was way back in the late 70's / early 80's . Helluva funny guy ...


3 posted on 12/08/2004 2:45:40 PM PST by sushiman
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To: swilhelm73

well..I guess that would be it for the Dirty Vicar Sketch...wink, wink,....nudge, nudge...know what I mean?...


4 posted on 12/08/2004 2:46:16 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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“There is an obvious difference between the behaviour of racist agitators who can be prosecuted under existing laws and the activities of satirists and writers who may choose to make comedy or criticism of religious belief, practices or leaders, just as they do with politics.”

A special exclusion for religion-hating comedians. Nice touch, Rowan.

5 posted on 12/08/2004 2:47:02 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: swilhelm73

Bl'adder !!!!


6 posted on 12/08/2004 2:49:05 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: swilhelm73

Blackadder is one of my all time favorite shows........ ;^)


7 posted on 12/08/2004 2:50:26 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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To: PoorMuttly
A turnip should be eaten as God intended.

My God, that turnip looks exactly like a thingy!

8 posted on 12/08/2004 2:52:05 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

and in a later incarnation......"Baldric, where did you get the milk in this coffee (tea?)...?!"


9 posted on 12/08/2004 2:54:48 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: swilhelm73

Madness, this caving - we're going to be left to fight this alone.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 2:56:46 PM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
How about a nice zucchini?
11 posted on 12/08/2004 2:58:29 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I'm a monthly donor and all I get is this stupid tagline.)
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To: PoorMuttly; Conspiracy Guy

Queen Elizabeth and Nursie - OH, and how about the Infanta of Spain? ROFL............


12 posted on 12/08/2004 3:05:11 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I was just searching for a pic of Edmund Blackadder to post to you and found the complete series sold in DVD and yelled to my Marine that I want that set for Christmas! lol


13 posted on 12/08/2004 3:06:09 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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To: My2Cents
Atkinson's argument is that religion is an idea rather than a racial designation and that while it is wrong to mock someone for their ancestry, it is fair game to make fun of their ideas.

The fact is, it has been open season on Christianity for sometime in Britain.

The impetus behind this law is not to shield Christians from abuse but to prevent any criticism of Islam and, more importantly, to allow Muslims to use the courts to fight Christians who are peacefully witnessing Christ to Muslims.

As a Christian I would prefer to allow others to mock my beliefs and still be allowed to talk to Muslims about Christ than to ensure that I not be offended at the cost of being legally restrained from preaching the Gospel.

14 posted on 12/08/2004 3:09:04 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Truly hilarious. Added a level of base reality to human history that is often lacking. This was the inspiration for my posted replies to all the glorious behavior "Otzi the Ice Man" speculation...I had him as a drunk, thieving, used arrow salesman, who got what he deserved.


15 posted on 12/08/2004 3:10:49 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: PoorMuttly

Haha.......very clever


16 posted on 12/08/2004 3:12:20 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

It was, in fact, a rather cunning plan.................


17 posted on 12/08/2004 3:13:59 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: swilhelm73

Westminster - this is obviously Great Britain. How will the law protect Britons against the fulminating hatred spewed from mosques? How will they monitor it? Or is that an even issue? I'm personally in favor of using our hate speech and hate crime legislation against muslim agitators wherever they are. It's on the books - it applies.


18 posted on 12/08/2004 3:18:37 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Non nobis, Domine, sed nomine tuo da gratia.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

"A turnip should be eaten as God intended."

While sitting on a spike. But not TWO spikes. Two spikes would be an extravagance!


19 posted on 12/08/2004 3:20:46 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: TalBlack; PoorMuttly

Baldric, your breath smells like it came straight from Satan's bottom


20 posted on 12/08/2004 3:41:24 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Thank you President Bush, and thank you America!)
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