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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I do understand that Turkey WAS a secular country, and certain part of its intelligentsia wants to preserve such heritage. However, you appear to ignore that the majority of the Turks voted for an ISLAMIC government! You also appear to ignore that Muslims throughout the world do not integrate well with the host countries, but tend to form an angry FIFTH COLUMN. So why would we want to wish the destruction of Europe by forcing 60 million angry Muslims on them?

Yes, in the past we had a good relation with Turkey, but now the tide of Islam is changing the tune every where.
13 posted on 12/10/2004 3:41:09 PM PST by conservlib
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To: conservlib
RE: "you appear to ignore that the majority of the Turks voted for an ISLAMIC government!"

I suppose I'll be forced back to google to prove it but like I said above: the issues in the election were the miserable economy and corruption. The AKP was repeatedly asked about its feelings toward Islam. They assured voters that they respected the secular government and they were not Islamists.

It appears they could have lied.

I trust the Turkish Army to handle it. It won't be the first time but this time it will not likely be as easy as the times before this -- even with the usual popular support. For anyone reading the article by Mr. Rubin they will know that the number of religious school students is well over a million. Plus there is the usual percentage of the population who are fundamentalists.

16 posted on 12/10/2004 4:51:08 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: conservlib

I agree. Europe has nothing to gain and much to lose from admitting Turkey.

And here'a a radical concept - we could stand back and let the EU & Turkey work it out. If the EU lets Turkey in, they can kiss their remaining freedoms good-bye. The Turks will swamp the EU, and immigration will allow extremist Muslims in all across Europe.

But if Europe wants to cut their own throat (perhaps literally), so be it.

I thank God for the Atlantic Ocean!


20 posted on 12/10/2004 7:54:50 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: conservlib
So why would we want to wish the destruction of Europe by forcing 60 million angry Muslims on them?

We aren't forcing anything on the EU. They do what they want and particularly what their own islamfacists constituencies demand. Turkey stiffed us in Afghanistan. Eu and them deserve each other.

23 posted on 12/11/2004 2:00:41 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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