On another note . . . vulcanology? Impressive. : )
Posted on 12/08/2004 6:14:39 AM PST by Pfesser
The direct result of teaching macro evolution is to create doubt about the existence of God. God's existence can not be proven in a scientific sense, hence faith is a reqiuirement. However, when it is all boiled down, it seems the choices are to believe in God or to believe that somewhere far far away and long long ago there was this cosmic spec of dust that exploded and eventually created all of the matter that we see today. So if I get to choose between the existence of a spec of dust that can't be explained or the existence of a God that can't be explained, it's simple.
Deductively, if I believe in the spec of dust theory, I will be liked by all the "academics" in the world. If I believe in God, I will be liked by God. Pretty easy choce. Alternatively if I believe in God and I am wrong, the only consequence is that I live my life a little less knowledgable than some "academics" on the face of this earth. However, if I believe in the spec of dust theory and I am wrong, the consequences could be eternal. So any way you slice it, it's a pretty easy choice.
Cheers.
Good point, kind of an evolutionism/creationism hybrid. Makes sense to me. Why is it sooo difficult for some people to imagine that we took millions of years to evolve?
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Exactly right. God built a system that has aspects of evolution built into it as a design feature. Minor variations are enabled.
We have right in front of us a brilliant example of evolution in the form of modern technology. It's geneology can be traced:
invention: cathode ray tube, begets: Radar, oscilloscopes, TVs;
TV's evolve to color TVs, then color TV's with remote controls, then color TV's with remote controls and sleep timers, etc....
However, the design engineers at Motorola would be deeply surprised to return to their R&D shop after a long weekend and find a brand new TV with a remote in the shop where none had existed the previous Friday.
The design evolves, but it is still a design.
Does Micro-evolution occur today in ape populations. Of course. Mutative forces combined with gene pool mixing should create many small morphological and biochemical changes. I see no evidence for Macro Evolution across genus boundaries
Anyone who believes that the world was created 6,000 years ago would be more at home in pre-school reading fairy tales to 3 year-olds. It's one thing to believe in Intelligent Design or disbelieve the theory of evolution but any adult that actually believes the earth is only 6,000 years old, would be unfit to teach any science class.
On another note . . . vulcanology? Impressive. : )
Occam's razor at its finest.
"...but any adult that actually believes the earth is only 6,000 years old, would be unfit to teach any science class."
These people are not incapable of learning science, most of them, but simply believe that God *could* have created everything as it is and put in the 'tree-ring' evidence for the sake of 'completeness'.
I disagree with that notion, but it is rational, based on certain theological choices, and not a facet of immaturity or stupidity.
"On another note . . . vulcanology? Impressive. : )"
Heheh, my guess is you are joking, but being the simple-minded literalist I am, vulcanology is the study of volcanoes or 'hard rocks'.
Thus she is able to understand me.
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Some New Ager's do.
"While you're at it, point me to the scientific evidence for the existence of God. Thanks!"
Umm, you are living in it.
And you are welcome.
"Occam's razor at its finest."
Didn't know the fella, but now that I've checked him out, I'd have to say he was the father of K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid)
"I have never heard of that before in my life. I'm 42 and have read many, many books on creation and origins. All without exception view fossils as one of the greatest proofs of the Bibles accuracy and Noah's flood because fossils require quick burial before any decomposing can take place and so many fossils are found clumped together as in a mudslide. Not to mention the sea creature fossils found on some mountain tops."
Do you understand what "fossilized" means, and that this can't possibly happen ove a few thousand years?
Why are different critters found in different levels of strata, for example, mammoth bones are never found WITH dinosaur bones. They are found on TOP of them, always. So, were there 2 floods? lol.
Thanks to plate tectonics and the way certain types of mountains are formed, what was once sea floor can be thrust up to become mountain.
Yeah. As the creationoid think-tank, Discovery Institute, says: "Teach the controversy!" Hey, give these guys a shot at the classrooms too (a Condorman link):
The Raelian Theory. Intelligent Design finds support among the Raelians.
Not ... going ... to post ... !!!!
"Is it not possible to believe in evolution and creationism both?"
You mean like the first being the method and the latter being the purpose?
Man, you sure know how to start a fight dont you?
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I agree with you, for what its worth, that it is not only possible but the most likely process.
But that wont buy you any time in the running dialogue between Biblical literalists and secular supremacists that typically dominates such threads.
I have never heard of that before in my life.
Stick around these threads for a while. You will read that exact argument right here.
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