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To: SierraWasp

Republicans don't care.

George Bush doesn't need California, except for the braindead donors who'll give to him even though he sells the Golden State out.

Republicans in Congress by and large don't care, because they either don't realize the scope of the problem being from other parts of the country, or they are bought off like cheap whores by business interests who profit from illegal alien labor.

Schwarzenegger doesn't care, he's tied to the idea of making life in California as easy as possible for "immigrants" (no matter what kind), and doesn't want to dare alienate anyone who might vote against him.

The California Legislature does care. They want the border eliminated totally.


14 posted on 12/07/2004 1:12:54 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (She calls me *Mini-Merc*)
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To: StoneColdGOP

I am very curious if the tax payer in California cares.


26 posted on 12/07/2004 2:09:30 PM PST by matchwood
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To: StoneColdGOP
So you think that the illegal immigrant problem in CA is Bush's fault?

CA is a state that actively dissuades it's law enforcement officer from reporting illegal aliens.

The state government keeps passing laws to benefit illegal immigrants.

If you want to combat the problem if illegal immigrants in CA, start by voting against those protecting them in your legislature.

Despite all the bad press that Bush's plan gets it would help address these problems.

After the initial startup, the guest worker program is only available to people outside of the US.

Illegal aliens would be deported.

Bush has increased the size of the border guard. It's still pitifully way to small to do the job on it's own. However, if the state and local law enforcement agencies were directed to report illegal immigrants rather than ignore immigration status, maybe we could make a serious dent in the problem.

Bush is also having the border guard deploy high tech surveillance methods to find illegal immigrants crossing the border. That's something that could provide a real benefit.

By making a good portion of the currently illegal workers legal, that may very well increase tax revenues from those immigrants, but since most are low paid workers, and our tax system doesn't have low wage workers pay income taxes, it's not likely to make a big difference. Switching to a federal sales tax would actually collect taxes from everyone, while still collecting more from the most wealthy.

Bush's plan also requires employees to to make "every reasonable effort to find an American to fill a job before extending job offers to foreign workers".

If that really works, it means that the immigrants are taking jobs not wanted by Americans.

We can either have low paid workers, or we can have those types of businesses that employ them collapse and go to other countries.

We're never going to see a positive direct tax flow from these workers, because our tax system is skewed so that lower income workers pay no income taxes. The benefits will be through growth in our economy, gains in corporate tax revenues from the profits of the companies employing them, and from the benefits of being able to buy inexpensive domestic products.

Lots of people want to criticize Bush's immigration reform plan. However, he's the first President to really attempt immigration reform.

If the implementation of his plan produces anything close to the results he's suggesting, we'll be far better off than we are now.

However, too many people seem to want to complain that the plan isn't exactly what they want, and often seem to make criticism without knowing much about the plan.

Here's some info on his plan for those interested in learning more about it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040107-1.html
39 posted on 12/07/2004 2:44:18 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: StoneColdGOP

"The California Legislature does care. They want the border eliminated totally."

Maybe those early warnings about a NWO were true. According to NWO plans, both the Mexican border and the Canadian border will be done away with to create the "Americas."


78 posted on 12/07/2004 8:53:55 PM PST by Cedar
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To: StoneColdGOP

Hey, it affects the rest of the country as well. Mexico has a dream of occupying the entire U.S. Used to be just the Southwest, since they have gone unchallenged, why not take it all??


82 posted on 12/08/2004 7:13:18 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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