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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
If young people can get the message that becoming a Christian doesn't instantly turn you into someone very uncool, that's a good thing, imo.

This thought process is scary. It's what our new pastor says too. It's a different thing that "I surrender all". It's a thought that says... I'll accept christ as long as the world still likes me. It's contrary to biblical teaching.

781 posted on 12/09/2004 9:24:12 AM PST by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: kjam22
Then you don't understand kids. Kids have more pressure on them now than ever to conform. They crave acceptance. Why do you think drug use and pregancy rates are much higher than they have ever been? Just look at the teen suicide rates.

You have to reach them at their level. I am sorry but that is true. Those kids that are caught up and wrapped so tight in the secular world have to have someone to identify with. Heck, there are even some that have been brought up in churches that can't identify because they still don't feel accepted.

No one is saying that the kids must compromise. But, in order to get the message to them you have to be able to push through the other garbage thrown in their faces nowdays and get it to them in ways that they can relate to and understand.

788 posted on 12/09/2004 9:42:10 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: kjam22
This thought process is scary. It's what our new pastor says too. It's a different thing that "I surrender all". It's a thought that says... I'll accept christ as long as the world still likes me. It's contrary to biblical teaching.

Or, you could look at it another way as well - a kid that is afraid of what their friends might think about them having Faith, might eventually overcome that fear, and who knows - it might even give them the strength (as Faith often can) to be more open and honest with their friends about it. And who knows, some of those friends might one day be lead to the Lord, and be saved.

Sure, it may not always work, but sometimes it might - and when it does, it's worth it.

790 posted on 12/09/2004 9:46:36 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: kjam22
That's interesting. Do you think Christians are commanded to be uncool people?

You see, I don't. I don't think God requires me to be a geek (nothing wrong with geeks, but I'm not one, and I'm a Christian), or to not have fun in my life, or to dress like my eighty year-old mother's algebra teacher.

And I think if a kid has that one less obstacle to consider, it's a good thing.

What I said has nothing to do with whether the world likes you for your beliefs. I didn't suggest kids do drugs, have sex, or think sin is good. I said that if they are aware of cool people - people they can relate to - that are Christians, it can do something to overcome an obstacle to being curious about salvation and a relationship with Christ.

But, a lot of people seem to think like you. That is apparent from this thread.

792 posted on 12/09/2004 10:04:50 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Wannabe Princess)
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