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What Corporate America Can't Build: A Sentence
New York Times ^ | December 7, 2004 | SAM DILLON

Posted on 12/07/2004 12:34:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
... Common courtesy is gone, too....

Sadly so.

21 posted on 12/07/2004 3:42:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tm22721
Grammar is *about* communication. Poor writing skills are signs of poor thinking skills: typically those who cannot construct a formal sentence are incapable of syllogistic thought.

"Jane Austen snobbery"? What do you mean? Have you read Jane Austen? Is the ability to communicate snobbish?

Also: "proles". This is a term that denigrates those to whom it is applied. If you want to present yourself as a "prole" then go ahead: but leave us out of it.

22 posted on 12/07/2004 3:44:02 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: SamAdams76
The virtual elimination of personal secretaries in our corporate culture has exposed a lot of poor writing skills in upper management.

How interesting.

Colleges are testing incoming students on their writing skills as well as their English and math skills. Many of them have to take remedial classes.

23 posted on 12/07/2004 3:45:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: agere_contra
Jane Austen snobbery

Clearly written by someone who has never read Jane Austen, or who doesn't appreciate her irony.

24 posted on 12/07/2004 3:46:45 AM PST by independentmind
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To: tm22721

What we have here, is a lack of communication.


25 posted on 12/07/2004 3:47:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Anyone who has spent any time scrolling through replies on an FR thread understands the horrific state of written literacy in this country.

"But they still understand me," is not an excuse. The person on the receiving end of an email or post forms an opinion of the person whose writing he or she is reading (for instance, most people think I'm a pompous ass), and that influences the gist of the message being conveyed. In other words, "they may not understand you" in the manner you believe to be the case.

26 posted on 12/07/2004 3:48:28 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: RushLake
.... Black writing on white background can become overwhelming, and can also mislead the writer's intent because you can't hear him speak. I also believe that voice inflections go a long way toward establishing a good working relationship. I used to receive and take part in these long strings of email with ccs to the world which then took on tangential lives of their own and could often be misconstrued or supportive of someone's negative agenda. ...

Bump!

27 posted on 12/07/2004 3:49:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: independentmind

Agreed! I particularly enjoyed "Persuasion".

"The Duchess of Dalrymple! Pray that she does not snub us!"


28 posted on 12/07/2004 3:49:50 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Junior

I've noticed that too. Not that you're an ass but that intent and positions can be twisted or misunderstood. Sometimes it's intentional but mostly because the poster wasn't clear or complete. Then there is the very useful /sarcasm.


29 posted on 12/07/2004 3:53:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: agere_contra

A public education does not develop logical thinking skills.


30 posted on 12/07/2004 3:57:10 AM PST by Paulus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's very simple. There are certain skills you need to move up in the world and writing is one of them. If you're in a corporate environment, you should also know the following:

A) Knowing how to buy a suit that fits
B) Ability to eat a meal without ruining a tie
C) Basic knowledge of architecture, literature, art, classical music or jazz.

All of this, of course, is in addition to being able to perform well in the job assigned.


31 posted on 12/07/2004 4:03:25 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: AntiGuv

Another vote for semicolon. !!!;)!!!


32 posted on 12/07/2004 4:05:54 AM PST by elli1
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To: durasell

Yes. Manners and culture count.

Trips to museums and family meals at the dinner table can easily help in those areas.


33 posted on 12/07/2004 4:11:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: agere_contra

Agreed, but let's not throw out syntax. That is a personal problem of mine, due to my German background I think.

(Throw me over the fence some hay!)

On another note, what is a prole??


34 posted on 12/07/2004 4:11:33 AM PST by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thanks for posting this article. I just forwarded it to my staff with a recommendation that they cleanup their acts! An individual or organization is measured by their communication. For too long, emails have been ignored in this manner.
35 posted on 12/07/2004 4:23:12 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

A rule of thumb I have is that I follow-up my important emails with telephone calls. Too many times I have had my superiors laughingly tell me that they just ignore emails.


36 posted on 12/07/2004 4:25:09 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Huck

Yeah, but how many of us even know what the heck a "clause" is anymore?


37 posted on 12/07/2004 4:26:17 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: AntiGuv

What! A semicolon is for punctuation? I thought its only use was for the eyes on a sideways smiley.


38 posted on 12/07/2004 4:29:49 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

With respect to your point about frequently not receiving the courtesy of a reply, my company actually encourages that rudeness. I work for a large insurance company and probably about once per quarter we are told that we should NOT reply to an email with an "okay" or "thanks," because each email we send costs the company a certain number of pennies. Isn't that nice?


39 posted on 12/07/2004 4:31:56 AM PST by ccmovrwc
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If our Human Resources manager wasn't a complete jackass, I would send this to him. He can't write a coherent memo to save his life.


40 posted on 12/07/2004 4:32:35 AM PST by raybbr
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