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What Corporate America Can't Build: A Sentence
New York Times ^ | December 7, 2004 | SAM DILLON

Posted on 12/07/2004 12:34:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 12/07/2004 12:34:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hey, this isn't a problem, it's an opportunity!

Why do I suppose that there are ANY NUMBER of FReepers who could offer their services, no doubt quite profitably, to these beleaguered corporations?

2 posted on 12/07/2004 12:43:09 AM PST by SAJ
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To: SAJ

seriesly!


3 posted on 12/07/2004 12:46:07 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

me rights emale reel good


4 posted on 12/07/2004 12:46:14 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: SAJ

Even more FReepers could benefit from these courses.


5 posted on 12/07/2004 12:49:32 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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Agreed.


6 posted on 12/07/2004 12:51:44 AM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: SAJ

For starters, why don't you put a period after "problem" and capitalize the I in "it's"? (Two sentences should not be separated by a comma.)


7 posted on 12/07/2004 12:51:54 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Straight Vermonter
Pls note that I didn't indicate ALL FReepers. (g!)

And a very Merry Christmas to you!

BTW, and just for fun, do you happen to know the 'Inverse Screaming Rule', as regards BBS, forum, and e-mail communications?

8 posted on 12/07/2004 12:52:13 AM PST by SAJ
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For starters, why don't you put a period after "problem" and capitalize the I in "it's"?

I don't understand why the semicolon gets no respect anymore; it's such a handy tool..

9 posted on 12/07/2004 2:52:13 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have been writing detailed e-mails and typed letters to business people. Many will not even give me the courtesy of a reply.

Writing skills are not the only thing missing from corporate America. Common courtesy is gone, too.

I believe it is about attention span. The average American seems to have the attention span of a five-year-old.

10 posted on 12/07/2004 2:55:05 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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I can attest to this. Most of the emails I get in my company are deplorable. It is as if a bunch of second graders are running the company! If I send more than a paragraph in reply, I sometimes get the comment "You didn't have to write a novel!" Many of them don't realize that I can type faster than I can talk!

Being able to write clearly and type it out quickly certainly is an advantage for me career-wise. I've been in offices of vice-presidents, watching them painfully "hunt and peck" at their keyboards, trying to keep up with the email. The virtual elimination of personal secretaries in our corporate culture has exposed a lot of poor writing skills in upper management.

11 posted on 12/07/2004 2:57:40 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Red Sox Win The World Series...And Bush Wins Re-election Too!)
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"i need help," said the message, which was devoid of punctuation. "i am writing a essay on writing i work for this company and my boss want me to help improve the workers writing skills can yall help me with some information thank you".

I wonder how this NEA Dumbed-downer will vote?

I am probably pouring gasoline on a fire, but the best writing I have ever seen was an H1-B engineer from India. While I could barely understand him when he spoke without getting dizzy, reading his technical reports and proposals was humbling to this English speaker! He had a PhD, and obviously came from a family who were not exactly living in a grass hut- But wherever he went to school, they taught the King's English.

It was not only humbling to read his writings, it was frightening, when one considers that he is competing for American jobs. He liked it here, and became a citizen.

12 posted on 12/07/2004 3:11:16 AM PST by Gorzaloon (*GASP* He insulted the Religion Of Peace™!!! --- KILL HIM!)
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I don't understand why the semicolon gets no respect anymore; it's such a handy tool.

I was going to say the same thing. A semicolon is a great way to connect two independent but related clauses.

13 posted on 12/07/2004 3:20:03 AM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The increasing use of email simply exposes a problem that already existed.


14 posted on 12/07/2004 3:22:33 AM PST by visualops (It's easier to build a child than repair an adult.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wanting more formality in writing smacks of Jane Austen snobbery, not better communications.

Because I can understand most emails without a problem. Why ? They resemble the vernacular.

Get off your high horse and join the proles.


BUMP

15 posted on 12/07/2004 3:27:24 AM PST by tm22721 (In fac they)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Huh. I'm a cubicle monkey. I get a ton of emails every day, and I don't get any which stand out as strikingly illiterate. I can think of an IS type who uses funky punctuation, but that's more quirky than ignorant.

The worst communicators, easily, are the Big Guys. Especially those who once had the luxury of secretaries writing all their communications (in fact, many of them have gone back to having the secretaries clean up their prose).

16 posted on 12/07/2004 3:35:34 AM PST by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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i aint gots no goods book learnens


17 posted on 12/07/2004 3:38:49 AM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE BLUE PIMPLE IN A SEA OF RED!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"I have been writing detailed e-mails and typed letters to business people. Many will not even give me the courtesy of a reply. Writing skills are not the only thing missing from corporate America. Common courtesy is gone, too."

I experienced the same thing during my glorious career in big business. I think its a combination of time and fear of being nailed down to something in writing. I finally came to the conclusion that email is a short sweet and to the point medium, not necessarily a vehicle for detailed communications. I found the phone to be more effective when there was a need for detailed conversation. Black writing on white background can become overwhelming, and can also mislead the writer's intent because you can't hear him speak. I also believe that voice inflections go a long way toward establishing a good working relationship. I used to receive and take part in these long strings of email with ccs to the world which then took on tangential lives of their own and could often be misconstrued or supportive of someone's negative agenda.

I would follow the phone conversation if necessary with a short sweet and to the point email only to the person I talked with. Sure helped avoid lots of acrimony and confusion.

Another thing I noticed is that as the company I worked for became more diverse, lower communications skill sets came into play. I had one africanhyphenamerican who worked for me who proudly proclaimed to anyone who would listen that he "be havin' fo degrees" all of which, apparently, were related to the ebonics language.

18 posted on 12/07/2004 3:39:06 AM PST by RushLake (Permission from the UN...we don't need no stinking permission slip from the UN.)
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To: SAJ

Is there a spelling nazi ping list? :)


19 posted on 12/07/2004 3:39:21 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: AntiGuv

Semicolon polyps.


20 posted on 12/07/2004 3:40:10 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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