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10,000 Troops Get Iraq Extension Into Next Year
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Posted on 12/06/2004 8:02:26 PM PST by Happy2BMe

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To: monday
when you sign up for the military, it isn't like accepting any other job. You can't quit, the military owns you.

Very true, but that concept is quite foreign to most of our culture. The real problem here is that those who volunteered for service have been deceived by deviation from past practice and by unilateral contract modifications. As this continues our military will suffer major attrition and recruiting problems.

41 posted on 12/07/2004 10:07:43 AM PST by Semper
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To: monday

It will improve morale. Another symbol that Iraq is on it's way to democracy, even if a small step.


42 posted on 12/07/2004 10:29:22 AM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: Semper

My grandfather was away in WW2 for 3 yrs. This is as serious, actually more serious, of a war.


43 posted on 12/07/2004 11:41:35 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Semper
The real problem here is that those who volunteered for service have been deceived by deviation from past practice and by unilateral contract modifications.

Does the enlistment contract put any limit to the duration an enlistee can be used for service by the government?
44 posted on 12/07/2004 11:44:25 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: monday

Ridiculous to compare WW2 and Iraq? Iraq is part of the Middle East and in many ways it is more serious as the terrorism we are forced to deal with after 9/11 involves cowards that hide as civilians and share the goal of destroying the USA. These troops are facing an enemy even worse than the Nazis and Japs of WW2. We are in a fight for survival really as these people look at ways to attack and kill us. Iraq is part of the war on terrorism and these extensions show the seriousness of what we have to deal with.


45 posted on 12/07/2004 11:47:16 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

"Ridiculous to compare WW2 and Iraq?"

Yes. There is no comparison. They are completely different situations.


46 posted on 12/07/2004 12:21:43 PM PST by monday
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To: monday

They are comparative in the seriousness to world security. The war on terror is a global war only it is fought by murderers who don't wear uniform and are united with regimes that rally around their call to destroy the United States.


47 posted on 12/07/2004 1:14:42 PM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Blood of Tyrants

My son, also. He got the news to extend the day he was due to rotate. His group was sent to Najaf because they weere the most fit. The First Cav had just arrived, was as green as grass and got its butt kicked at first.


48 posted on 12/07/2004 1:24:42 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: TheCrusader

Juan usually makes a good soldier.


49 posted on 12/07/2004 1:27:31 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: monday

Will be one step further on toward an Iraqi government.


50 posted on 12/07/2004 1:28:53 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: Semper

I talked with a National Guard recruiter at a gun show here in Oregon recently. According to him, enlistments are *way* down and the services generally are really worried about it. They're not getting any response from highschool seniors.

The services are trying to use "theme marketing" to get enlistments - "be all that you can be", etc. - and it's not working. I guess I'm not surprised at that - for my money, they'd do better to use an outright patriotic appeal, complete with photographs of 9/11 and combat footage.

But, what do I know...


52 posted on 12/07/2004 3:06:05 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: George Meade

Let me repeat. I am in conversation with a woman in the unit whose husband is at brigade level.

She knows HOW it went down.

I'm certain of my facts.


53 posted on 12/07/2004 3:09:44 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: George Meade

I have an unimpeachable source about what was told those families.


55 posted on 12/07/2004 4:03:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: George Meade; Happy2BMe

I have an unimpeachable source about what was told those families.


56 posted on 12/07/2004 4:03:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Nah....it's not a quagmire. No way!


57 posted on 12/07/2004 4:05:32 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: bushfamfan
Ridiculous to compare WW2 and Iraq? Iraq is part of the Middle East and in many ways it is more serious as the terrorism we are forced to deal with after 9/11 involves cowards that hide as civilians and share the goal of destroying the USA. These troops are facing an enemy even worse than the Nazis and Japs of WW2. We are in a fight for survival really as these people look at ways to attack and kill us. Iraq is part of the war on terrorism and these extensions show the seriousness of what we have to deal with.

And when we fought the Japanese and Germans we had no traitors in this country working for the enemy, no lawyers at the front and our people were united.

We had better be looking for an exit strategy.

58 posted on 12/07/2004 7:11:24 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: George Meade; Happy2BMe; Dr. Eckleburg
George, I checked again with my source. Remember that my original note from her on this was something like a month to 6 weeks ago...BEFORE it got in the media. Here is what I received (names removed):

We were originally told they would probably be gone 12 to 14 months (they left at the beginning of January). Then last summer, they had changed that date and were planning to send the ___ Brigade home NLT the first part of December (most were coming back the end of November). That was recinded in the first part of October when we got that news that the ___ Brigade Combat Team was being "extended" until January. It really wasn't an extension at all, they just were going back to their original plan. This latest change of plans to March actually still puts them in the original timeframe (14 months).

They keep reminding us that "we told you to expect 12 to 14 months". It still was a blow - we thought surely they would send them home after their year was up.........

Hope that clears up the confusion.

Have a great day!


59 posted on 12/07/2004 7:48:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

That's right in the ballpark.


60 posted on 12/07/2004 7:52:13 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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