Posted on 12/06/2004 7:22:25 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
My experience is quite different from yours. Hoping that a religion with 60 million followers in the US becomes destitute because of the actions of a few is not what I would consider "Christian". Do you?
It is to the point of what Club that you want to belong to. Elks, Moose, Legion, etc. It is all about the money.
Of course, what Flavor you were brought up on means everything because no one else was any good.
I remember a nun telling me that if I became a protestant, I was going to Hell. I think she believed that crap.
Only $11.1 in assets. The real property must not be included in this amount.
If the Vatican does not step up to plate, and pay off the unpaid liabilities through a collection effort, it will lose far more in moral authority than the dollars saved is my guess. It is their choice. Will they do what is just, moral and right? The ball is in their court. I assume the real estate (churches) will be put up for auction, and the Vatican will repurchase them, or urge the local flock to put up the bucks to do so.
At a certain point negligence becomes criminal. As I indicated it depends on the specifics.
If you are correct, this means the creditor/victims get zero.
This is nothing in the world but a last ditch effort to cover the butts of those who are guilty of pedifilia and those who are responsibile for protecting the helpless victims from these monsters.
I wonder if these butt coverers think they can also blind the eyes of God.
PAYDAY SOMEDAY!
In our diocese each parish is incorporated separately but the buildings and land is all in the bishop's name so I don't know how it works.
The diocese carry several layers of risk insurance, and will also pay some of the claims, since it's being reported that they are also parties to the Settlement Agreemnet. The amount paid by the carriers may be substantial.
Sorry to all the Catholic bashers and haters, but the Church is not going down.
I think that we are really not that far off. I think that I've taken my argument off on another tangent a bit. Growing up I had the unique opportunity to see our local priests in action. I worked five night's a week answering the door and phone at a rectory with five priests (they ran a high school). I was put off by the Pastor's never-ending quest for $$. He acted more like a businessman than a priest. On the other hand, the rectory housed the most decent man I've ever met. The other priests would not come down to talk to someone who came to the door looking for help. Most were men down on their luck with a family of five kids living in their car. This priest would ALWAYS come down, and open his own wallet and hand the man a $20 bill (a lot in 1965). When I am feeling stingy about giving to a charity, I always think back to that priest, and then open my wallet.
The Dallas Morning News started a series in June of this year on scores of cases in which Church officials are continuing, to this very day, to hide perverts by transfering them around between parishes and countries. In many cases, the Church claims it cannot find these pervs, who were easily located by reporters. An overview:
I don't believe that priest-bashing should be the new indoor sport for the 21st century. I have known many holy priests. However, I believe that the Catholic heirarchy, especially the USCCB, is corrupt beyond imagination. I pray every day that God will intervene, and give someone the courage and power to clean house. Clearly, that is not happening now.
It's the Catholic church as an institution that I have always had a problem with,not the Catholic church as a place of worship.
Not totally convinced, NO specifics in your news papaer article, although I have heard of a few flleing the country after they were defrocked. Taking the MSM at its word when they are attacking Christians is not what this conservative swallows wholesale.
Your posts are obviously meant to bas the Catholic religion. DU seems up your alley, since you have no specific facts to back up your wholesale condemnation of religious institutions with 60 million members in the US alone. Many are very conservative and want to these these sickos behind bars more than anything else.
For you to allude that all Catholics are naive or indifferent or tolerant of these abuses is ludicrous.
What does the shoe shine box mean,? please elaborate. Thanks
What I gave you was a summary. A "summary", you see, gives an overview of one or more things to give you an idea of that which is contained therein. If you want specific, detailed reports on the cases that are "summarized", you have to read almost six month's worth articles. If you really want to inform yourself, rather than persist in ignorance, I suggest that you go to the Dallas Morning News site, pull up each of the articles, and read them (or have someone read them to you). There are plenty of facts there. Conservatives who are worthy of the name are eager to examine facts, rather than clinging to ignorant assumptions.
I can assure you that I have no desire to "bas" the Catholic religion. Unlike the vast majority of the 60 million Catholics you cite, most of whom see the inside of a church three times in their lives, I am a very Traditional Catholic.
As to "shine box", Google is your friend.
I'm asking you to provise specifics for your wholesale condemnation of the entire Catholic Church. You have not provided any>
I have asked you about a shoe shine remark you directed at me. You did not answer but pointed me to "Google".
Don't get into a discussion if you can't back up your words. You lack any credibility.
You really want to be spoon-fed, don't you? I give you a reference that requires you to read further for more details, and you can't. I suggest you use Google to look up the background of one of the best-known cultural references in America, and you can't. Who helps you log on here? Sorry, but I am not your mommy. There is none so blind as he who will not see.
"The Church is still playing a shell game with pedophile presbyters. If you think this all ended in 1990, you are delusional."
Time for you to put up or shut up, and a simple google search with that POS MSM article you posted above ain't gonna cut it buddy. That's horse shit journalism.
You don't have any specific cases since 1990. And your "go home shoe shine" ain't gonna cut it either.
Calling people delusional is not in your best interest when your argument is based on BS.
You can't back any of your posts.
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