[ZGuy]

"Given the human misery wrought by this massive, affluent, parasitic and completely irrational industry we could wish it was terminal. All that we can hope is that it expires before killing its host." -- Steve Milloy

[goldstategop]

Environmentalists are socialists with a green patina. They believe the land should be managed by the state and the peasants should kept at a distance. Kind of an updated version of the medieval King's Lands.

[headsonpikes]

'Environmentalism' is not a tradition, but a religion.

And a false one at that!

[tiki]

If it was up to me it would have been aborted before it was born. Do you know how much these guys have cost us?

We probably did need some changes because of air quality but they pushed it way too far.

[Always Right]

After a string of stunning successes, today's environmentalism seems stalled. "Over the last 15 years environmental foundations and organizations have invested hundreds of millions of dollars into combating global warming.

If they would stick to real environmentalism instead of grossly exagerated ones they might make some progress.

[Max Combined]

Nice quote. Like communism, environmentalism sounds good, but in reality it is very bad.

[No-Compromise Conservative]

The real environmentalists are landowners, farmers, scientists, and outdoorsmen. The people from the Sierra Club and other left-wing groups just want to suck our tax dollars dry and force other people to live in conditions that cannot sustain a comfortable lifestyle.

[Gingersnap]

"Our thesis is this: the environmental community's narrow definition of its self-interest leads to a kind of policy literalism that undermines its power."

I come into contact with environmental activists pretty often. I've been at hearings where 10 people in the audience are wearing gas masks. I've been in stake holder's meetings where the debate got so shrill that meeting was adjourned.

Environmentalists lost their focus somewhere around 1980. Prior to that, ranchers, farmers, hunters, etc. often worked closely with environmentalists. Their "reality-based" support dropped out when extremists offered a vision of zero human impacts - an impossible goal.

When those extremists teamed up with PETA, Greenpeace, Earth First, ELF and others, the cause was lost. People do believe that children have more value than a dog. People won't pay to support a habitat they are forbidden to enter. People really don't want a third world lifestyle.

And by the way - the air is cleaner now than at any time since the industrial revolution. In the big cities it may be cleaner now than ever PERIOD.

[SierraWasp]

"Death of the EnvironMental movement?"

Good! I will die happy if I can first dance on it's worthless "Born Again Pagan" grave!!!

[JennysCool]

Amazing that the '60s geeks don't realize that society is not a stagnant thing -- it moves on. Placing the priorities of the '60s at the top of the '00s agenda is as ridiculous as placing the priorities of the '20s at the top of the '60s agenda. The '60s generation must come to grips with what every generation must face: YOU'RE OLD. YOU'RE IRRELEVANT. GO AWAY.

[TChris]

If environmentalists had simply been reasoned voices for moderation and responsibility in the use of natural resources, they would likely have been far better received. It's their penchant for hyperbole, deception, flat-out lying and violent attacks on others that have "killed" the movement -- if, in fact, it is happening at all.

Like constipation, some movements bring tremendous relief when they are past (passed).

[Post Toasties]

Among other things the environmentalists are getting wrong is their statist coercive approach toward energy conservation which penalizes the end user and hurts the economy.

Much better would be one that emphasizes technological R&D (e.g.: developing better batteries, more efficient solar cells) to improve the efficiency of products that are also competitive in the marketplace, and to promote a move toward safe nuclear power generation (which the greenies have been obstructing for decades) that would go a long way toward freeing the US from foreign oil dependence.

[GVnana]

Environmentalists have no clear, constructive agenda. They're a lost cause until they do.

[farmfriend]

Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

[Old Professer]

The cadre of charismatic leaders that inspired and drove the movement in its early years and through the great successes of the 70s have slowed down and settled into a noisy, but less-effective presence mainly in the courtroom; after all, it's darn hard to monkey wrench clear-cutting in a national forest from a wheelchair.

[TXnMA]

Hopeful words -- where does one go to contribute to the tombstone fund?

[F.J. Mitchell]

The environmental movement has always been dead from the neck up. Maybe scum rots from the head down, same as fish.

[dalereed]

The only way to end it is to destroy the government schools, kids are preached that garbage day after day.

Don't ever count the Sierra Club out. Years ago the chairman stated that their desired end result was to eliminate all humans west of the Rockies.