Wasn't Ben an Athiest or Freemason or something?
BTW, I think it funny that typical liberals so open armed to all walks of life (at least you would think so), criticize Christians as being biggots and judgemental people, when really, we accept the scum of the earth as our brothers and sisters. Christ wasn't hanging around with the upper crust, but employed murderers and hookers into his ministry, and converted them. We might be hypocritical at times, we're human, and we're all sinners and we need to try to be better examples. I know I'm not an example for anyone to follow right now, but I still realize we're all God's beloved children even with the most horrifying acts we commit. If and only if we give ourselves to him completely. - Thanks for reading, ;-)
Here's an interesting quote from Franklin: [It's a little long, but well worth reading.]
Signer of the U.S. Constitution and The Declaration of Independence, Benjamin Franklin, noted during the Constitutional Convention in 1787:
"I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that 'except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.' I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel.
We shall be divided by our partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing governments by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.
I therefore beg leave to move that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven and its blessings on our deliberations be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service."
Franklin was no atheist. He wasn't, IIRC, a regular churchgoer.
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN'S CALL TO PRAYER
In 1787 delegates from numerous states had gathered in the city of Philadelphia to construct the U.S Constitution, a plan of government that has now stood the test of time for over 200 years. They were to spend 4 long months laboring over this great foundational document that would produce the longest lasting democracy and haven of freedom the world has ever known.
However, things weren't going too well during the first few weeks. There were heated debates over petty issues and the whole project was on the verge of total collapse. There had even been a proposal to dismiss and return to their respective states.
In the midst of all this frustration and tension, the old statesman of the gathering, Benjamin Franklin stood to his feet, leaned on his cane, and addressed the President of the convention, George Washington. Here were the words he spoke on June 28, 1787:
"Mr. President: The small progress we have made after four or five weeks close attendance and continual reasonings with each other - - - our different sentiments on almost every question, several of the last producing as many noes as ayes is, methinks, a melancholy proof of the imperfection of the human understanding. We indeed seem to feel our own want of political wisdom since we have been running about in search of it.
In this situation of this Assembly, groping as it were in the dark to find political truth, and scarce able to distinguish it when presented to us, how has it happened, sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights, to illuminate our understanding?
In the beginning of the contest with Great Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine protection. Our prayers, sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending Providence in our favor. To that kind Providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten that powerful Friend? Or do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?
I have lived, sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, sir, in the Sacred Writings, that 'except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.' I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel: we shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and byword down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing governments by human wisdom and leave it to chance, war, and conquest.
I therefore beg leave to move - - - that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service."
That speech had both immediate and ongoing results. The tensions melted, the atmosphere changed, and this group of men went on to construct the greatest constitution that has ever existed.
Also, Congress began to start every session with prayer, a practice that continues to this present day! Incidentally, during the entire 4 months in which the Constitution, the 1st Amendment, and the Bill of Rights were being written, not one thing was said about 'separation of church and state'!
In this prayer, Benjamin Franklin quotes from both Old and New Testaments of the Bible. There should be no doubt as to which "God" he is referring to.
This story was taken from the following sources:
The Papers of James Madison, James Madison, Henry D. Gilpin, editor (Washington: Langtree & Sullivan, 1840) Vol. II, pp. 984-986. June 28, 1787
History of the United States, Benson J. Lossing, 1875, Ch. IX, pp. 358-359, published by Hartford: T. Belknap
A Complete History of the United States, J.A. Spencer & Benson J. Lossing, 1878, Book IV, Chap. II, pp. 221-221, published by William T. Amies
An American Primer, Daniel J. Boorstin, 1966, p. 95, published by Meridan, a division of Penguin Books Original Intent, David Barton, 2000, Wallbuilder Press, Aledo Tx., chap. 8, p. 185