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Women Excited About New Job Opportunities (Saudi Arabia)
Arab News ^ | December 6, 2004 | Maha Akeel

Posted on 12/05/2004 4:22:17 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John

JEDDAH, 6 December 2004 — The words of Prince Sultan, second deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation, have raised hopes of new job opportunities among Saudi women. The prince welcomed Saudi women trainees to the Civil Aviation Academy but not everyone is excited about that.

During the formal inauguration of the academy on Friday, Prince Sultan said the academy would welcome female trainees as long as they conform to the Shariah. Women could come with their husbands or brothers for training.

“I think there are many job opportunities for Saudi women in Saudia. The jobs are suitable for us and conform to the Shariah,” said Marwa Ibrahim, a university graduate. She suggested such ground staff jobs as check-in and check-out counters, issuing tickets, or salespeople in duty-free shops could be done by women. “We could dress modestly and cover our hair as in the UAE and Bahrain. There are also administrative and clerical jobs,” she pointed out.

Nahla Muhammad whose degree is in nutrition immediately thought of the catering department. “That is an appropriate department for women and we could even work in a separate building,” she said.

Other girls wanted to take to the skies. “I wouldn’t mind working as a flight attendant on domestic flights where I wouldn’t have to spend the night away from home,” said Nouf. Although she would like to work on international flights, she realizes that that would be a problem not only because of our conservative culture but also because she would need permission from her male guardian.

Parents and husbands have other concerns.

“I would never allow my wife to be a stewardess, even on domestic flights,” said Ahmad. “Do you know what kind of passengers are on those planes?” As for ground staff, he would not mind if his wife dealt exclusively with women and families, or perhaps in customer service or as a phone salesperson.

One woman said: “As a concerned mother, I would be very worried about my daughter working either on a plane or as ground staff.” On the other hand, she felt that if women worked at the airport, it might make the place a more friendly environment for women.

Interestingly, none of the girls or the parents seemed to consider women working as pilots — even though Hanadi Hindi has become the first Saudi woman pilot-to-be.

All agree that working as flight attendants, whether male or female, is not easy. “I think Saudis working for Saudia are an asset. As the national carrier, they project the image of the airline and they should take pride in their work,” said an expatriate who is a former employee of Saudia.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; muslims; muslimwomen; saudiarabia; sharia; shariah; silenceofnow
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1 posted on 12/05/2004 4:22:19 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

A selected few can learn to fly a plane, when they still can't drive cars?


2 posted on 12/05/2004 4:24:36 PM PST by xJones
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Freedom, Equality, retirement plan.


3 posted on 12/05/2004 4:26:11 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: xJones
I like this paragraph:

Nahla Muhammad whose degree is in nutrition immediately thought of the catering department. “That is an appropriate department for women and we could even work in a separate building,” she said.

4 posted on 12/05/2004 4:26:53 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Do they avoid losing their clitori with an obsidian knife in the name of a moon god as part of the benefits package?


5 posted on 12/05/2004 4:28:53 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Saudis do not practice female genital mutilation. That is an African contribution to TROP.


6 posted on 12/05/2004 4:37:10 PM PST by trek
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Or “I would never allow my wife to be a stewardess, even on domestic flights,” said Ahmad. “Do you know what kind of passengers are on those planes?”

Yes! The majority on domestic Saudi flights are Saudis males!

Come to think of it, though, I wouldn't want MY daughter on a Saudi domestic flight....

7 posted on 12/05/2004 4:41:25 PM PST by xJones
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To: SpaceBar

The millenia of inbreeding has rendered their cow population, to stupid for anything but sprouting forth new jihadis, when their husbands, fathers and brothers aren't busy, mutilating, burning, stoning or beheading them.

They are clearly genetically (through sharia and culturally based inbreeding), and thus as a race, become far too stupid to be capable of survival as a race.

It's not just islam. It's the arab race that has done this in conjunction with mad mo's religion. Islam drives them nuts, and makes sure they and their offspring stay nuts... forever. The damage genetically of marrying and raping family members, has made the inbred damage... irreversible.


8 posted on 12/05/2004 4:45:18 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (real republicans WIN.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
"“I would never allow my wife to be a stewardess, even on domestic flights,” said Ahmad. “Do you know what kind of passengers are on those planes?”

OHMYGOD...........you mean MEN fly on those things???????????????? And.......and.........they might SEE his wifey-poo???????????

Stuck in the Middle Ages. Without oil, they'd be herding goats in the desert still (and doing other things with 'em, I'm sure).

9 posted on 12/05/2004 4:48:21 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Robert_Paulson2

" They are clearly genetically (through sharia and culturally based inbreeding), and thus as a race, become far too stupid to be capable of survival as a race. [...] The damage genetically of marrying and raping family members, has made the inbred damage... irreversible "

This is absurd. There is no scientific evidence to support this, genetic or otherwise.


11 posted on 12/05/2004 7:36:27 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Robert_Paulson2
You are very foolish. Sometimes I can tell it's your post without even reading your name first.

Just about the only thing Saudi women are allowed to do is study. Same in Iran. The women in Afghanistan (before the Taliban) were the most educated women in the middle east.

There are plenty of well educated women in Iraq. Some of the most wanted in Iraq were women. Remember Dr. Germ and Mrs. Anthrax?

The Queen of Jordan is a Palestinian by birth and she holds two college degrees. She is very pro-education and she supports grants for and education for entrepreneurs.

The wife of the Emir of Qatar is one of most pro-education women in the middle east. She has almost single handily brought several American Universities (very high profile Universities) into Qatar.

Here is just one fact sheet about education in Saudi Arabia. Please take the time to read it.

http://www.wes.org/ewenr/01nov/practical.htm

Make sure and see this...."Both sexes follow the same curriculum and take the same annual examinations.".

Read the curriculum. It might surprise you.

Do you ever bother to read facts or just post whatever spews from your head?

12 posted on 12/05/2004 7:59:25 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: texasflower

bottom line for seventh century cultural neanderthals?

upgrade to western culture or take a hike into geopolitical oblivion on the scrap heap of failed ideologies....

You can call me when saudi women are allowed to drive, go out in public UN escorted without fear. and don't have to cover their faces in public...

bye


13 posted on 12/05/2004 11:45:33 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (real republicans WIN.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

My comments had nothing to do with the cultural advances of that civilization. They are certainly behind, but that it NOT what we were talking about.

It was about the educational aspects. You made stupid and untrue remarks about their educational opportunities.

That is what you were talking about. You are a childish little fool.


14 posted on 12/06/2004 12:08:56 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: texasflower

as long as they support murder as punishment for adultery, whatever education they have is meaningless.

either because they are too stupid to figure it out, or are as a culture, incapable of connecting the dots.

get back to me when women can drive, stoning them for adultery is illegal and they don't have to cover their faces in public... until then YOU know nothing... as far as I am concerned... and that goes for MOST of America.

your religion and it's subjugation of women is NOT welcome, education or not.


15 posted on 12/06/2004 12:52:26 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (real republicans WIN.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

This is my last post to you on this subject. Like a little fool you went off on a subject you know nothing about.

When I called it to your attention, you changed the subject.


16 posted on 12/06/2004 12:55:17 AM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: texasflower

whatever...
get back into your chador.
your 'education' is showing.


17 posted on 12/06/2004 3:00:10 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (real republicans WIN.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

I don't think texasflower is a troll.


18 posted on 12/06/2004 5:43:02 AM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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“I think there are many job opportunities for Saudi women in Saudia. The jobs are suitable for us and conform to the Shariah,” said Marwa Ibrahim,...

One of the jobs is to serve as half-time entertainment during football (soccer) games.

Of course it's always just the single appearance.

19 posted on 12/06/2004 5:49:39 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Thank you. You're right. I'm not a troll.


20 posted on 12/06/2004 3:47:16 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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