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Union Square kicks out young carolers Grade-school kids get boot for lack of permit from city
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/5/4 | Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross

Posted on 12/05/2004 10:01:45 AM PST by SmithL

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To: SmithL

I wouldn't let them stop me and my kids from singing. We'd just politely say okay, no problem and walk down the street singing our hearts out.


41 posted on 12/05/2004 12:43:11 PM PST by pray4liberty (http://www.tldm.org)
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To: SmithL

We don't want this to happen, of course, but if a terrorist dirty bomb ever detonates in a U.S. city, this depraved city and Las Vegas would be the terrorists first choice. San Francisco should form its own little country.


42 posted on 12/05/2004 12:47:35 PM PST by doug from upland (Vietnam Vets: FINALLY -- welcome home, heroes)
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To: SmithL
"How can children not be allowed to sing in a public park?'' Vargas fumed.

All they had to do was sing the carols in Spanish and no one would have dared to say anything. ;)

43 posted on 12/05/2004 12:49:58 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: SmithL

That whole liability issue was just a smokescreen being used to attack religious people!How stupid can one get to believe that, because any person there could sue for any lameheaded reason."San Fransissyco",another American city that trashes tradition.


44 posted on 12/05/2004 1:18:34 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: SmithL

If they had only said they were there to entertain the homeless out of compassion nothing would have happened.

Remember, in San Francsico only the motivation counts not the action itself. For example, Food Not Bombs has never been rousted for any of their stunts.


45 posted on 12/05/2004 1:19:39 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Citizen James

"Yet shoeless crackheads get free reign to bug the crap out of us wherever we go downtown..."

Last I heard, the city was handing out cash money. Is that still going on?


46 posted on 12/05/2004 1:26:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: netmilsmom

>>If a kid falls on the step, they're going to automatically sue Rec and Park and me.<<

Classic case of a 'rat projecting her own diseased values onto the community at large. This is why these germs thought Silky Pony was a good candidate...


47 posted on 12/05/2004 1:28:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Viking2002

What took you so long?


48 posted on 12/05/2004 1:29:37 PM PST by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: SmithL

I would bet money that the city would welcome a few perverse holiday songs from the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.


49 posted on 12/05/2004 1:34:01 PM PST by madprof98
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To: SmithL

Personally, I think the line has been crossed. Time to water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots. Yet we stand back calmly and rant and rave and watch them rewrite history, and destroy what few rights we have left and expect to win in a system loaded with activist commie judges. Sorry folks. It won't work.
Time for civil disobedience...at the very least.

Our Founders are rolling in their graves.


50 posted on 12/05/2004 1:35:25 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: SmithL

In any case, why would a bunch of kids want to sing in a park where the sidewalks are covered with human feces? I can't imagine Union Square in S.F. being much of a "holiday spirit" kind of place under any circumstances.


51 posted on 12/05/2004 2:42:18 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (W2: Coming January 20, 2005! Be There!)
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To: Enlightiator

any attorneys out there up to challenging this POLICY? I don't think it would stand up to a real court-and-public-opinion onslaught....


52 posted on 12/05/2004 3:34:00 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (...UGH! Cockroches! HUGE Cockroaches! Gotta Tent and fumigate the UN Building! Everybody Out!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Well, the new mayor started a program called "care not cash" and the far-left wing media (which is main-stream out here) totally hates it, so that means it must be working...


Here's some govt info on it...

http://www.sfgov.org/site/dhs_index.asp?id=13701


53 posted on 12/05/2004 3:38:36 PM PST by Citizen James (Notorious G.O.P.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
why would a bunch of kids want to sing in a park where the sidewalks are covered with human feces? I can't imagine Union Square in S.F. being much of a "holiday spirit" kind of place under any circumstances.

Believe or not, it's not any worse than Time Square in NYC, I believe they have security during business hours, it's right by ritzy hotels and a huge Macy's, it gets really "Christmassy" this time of year...

Union Square - SF

54 posted on 12/05/2004 3:48:42 PM PST by Citizen James (Notorious G.O.P.)
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To: auggy
Hey, it's a rainy day and I was putting up Christmas lights. Can't be in front of this one-eyed monster 24/7, ya know? LOL


55 posted on 12/05/2004 4:57:39 PM PST by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: SmithL

In S.F., public parks are for crack whores and homos in the bushes. There is no place for children, especially Christian (yecch) children!


56 posted on 12/05/2004 5:46:11 PM PST by montag813
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To: SmithL

In that whacked out city, I am amazed that there are two dozen kids that have even heard of Christmas.

They could have run around naked and done perverted acts, and all would have been fine.


57 posted on 12/05/2004 5:52:22 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW
OK, OK, I know it's crazy here, but don't forget about the 54,335 of us that voted Bush. There's probably even a Freeper or two lurking around these streets, behind enemy lines...


58 posted on 12/05/2004 6:34:20 PM PST by Citizen James (Notorious G.O.P.)
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To: netmilsmom
>>If a kid falls on the step, they're going to automatically sue Rec and Park and me.<< Then bring a paper that the rep of the group...

(Sarcasm on, please. No offense intended.) Then bring a paper that the rep of the group...can use as a poop scoop should the nasty little darlings decide to soil the park with their presence. (sarcasm off)

It will be interesting to see whether children intent on celebrating Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Muslim and Hindu holidays, or pagans anticipating the coming "winter solstice" will also be shooed away from the park. I doubt it. One must not offend people of other faiths. Now, I believe this with all my heart. Why, then, is it deemed acceptable for the thought police and the political correctionists to suppress Christianity and hence to offend the so-called "faith of the majority" by declaring that this faith will offend those who subscribe to the so-called "minority" faiths? We seriously need to expose these multiculturalists for the lowlife ANTICULTURALISTS (even Karl Marx called them the "lumpenproletariat") that they truly are at heart, and to expose their political correctness as the most dangerous form of fundamentalism ever to grab hold of the popular imagination in the United States.

"Separation of church and state" is nowhere to be found in the Constitution, but in the writings of Thomas Jefferson. If truth be told, church (and that means ALL faiths) may enter government, but government may NOT enter the church so defined. In other words, political discourse, in order to be inclusive and all-encompassing, must allow and "tolerate" religious-based discourse. Those who engage in religious discourse must expect to be confronted and insulted for their political conceptions of the state. Government may neither favor nor suppress any religious or secular political discourse except that which openly threatens violence against the body politic. Do we really think the city officials involved in harassing children intent on having a good time and merely expressing who they are would understand such a line of argument?

59 posted on 12/05/2004 6:36:48 PM PST by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, Gullible's Troubles! Steal the wealth, spread the poverty.)
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To: SmithL
Too bad they weren't just pervert bums sleeping in the bushes, as then they would have been given the keys to the City.
60 posted on 12/05/2004 6:41:42 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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