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1 posted on 12/04/2004 7:48:02 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick
Oh no, not this sh-- again...

My impression from anecdotal experience is that no one in this country except the press and other America hating scum give a rat's a$$ about these stories.

2 posted on 12/04/2004 7:56:10 PM PST by pierrem15
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okay.. so they cut people's head's off and we put soldiers in prison.. ummm......real clear! Get the "imbed's" out!


3 posted on 12/04/2004 7:56:27 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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Oh no, they SAT on them??!! Oh, the humanity!!!


4 posted on 12/04/2004 7:57:36 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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Posted already.

This story is just such a load of BS. The photo's I have seen is hardly earth-shattering. Stupid maybe, but if I had seen these photo's prior to this "story" I wouldn't even have given it a second thought. You have some SEALS sitting on some detainess lying on the ground and posing for a picture, etc. Big deal.

PS : I can just see the AP reporter who "found" these photo's on the Internet scream "Alluha Akbar" when he found them. He probably cried tears of joy. AP probably gave him a promotion too. This whole thing seems so childish and immature. Was the rporter surfing for porn when he found these pictures. Do they have people sitting around surfing Google all day. It's so stupid.


5 posted on 12/04/2004 7:57:41 PM PST by Trippin
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I've seen several of the pictures. What is the supposed abuse? One showed a smiling SEAL with a thumbs up next to clothed, hooded (and therefore unidentifiable) prisoners. The ONLY thing that suggests to me is the unlawful taking of a personal photograph. Oh, the horror!

Another showed a shirtless prisoner with blood on his chest. I suppose that it's possible that the SEALs abused a prisoner and made him bleed, but blood is not in short supply in a war for many reasons. Is the blood from before or after he was taken prisoner? Why should I assume the worst?

Maybe I missed the pictures that were EVIDENCE of the mistreatment of prisoners. Anybody know what the supposed scandal involves?


6 posted on 12/04/2004 7:59:34 PM PST by bin2baghdad
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Best the Philadelphia Inquirer could do today was to run a picture of three marines with an Iraqi detainee - doing absolutely nothing wrong. These pictures are of night raids. One I saw had individual in night clothes with hood over head, held by the arm by one marine. Other two marines doing zip, looking at each other. Caption said it "appeared to show an Iraqi in the grips of American troops.

There is no story here. Last AP story admitted pics show nothing illegal. Note the military quote in this article is that some people will "use" the photos to cause trouble - not that anything was done wrong.

Ap is trying to make up an issue that these photos "predate" Abu Grahib. Only significant if you believe the U.S, troops are jackbooted Nazis in all their operations.

These are pictures in the midst of raids. Suspects are being held or subdued. In one photo, God forbid, an Iraqi is bleeding. I assume the Marines shoot people too, especially earlier in the war.

AP found these photos by searching military family websites. They show a few Marines in action and try to make something of it. There isn't. The photos do not demonstrate abuse.

7 posted on 12/04/2004 8:00:54 PM PST by Williams
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I've seen those photos, and this whole issue is a fraud.

This may be news to some people, but a number of terrorists and insurgents actually resist being detained. Yes, unlikely as it seems, many of them will continue to fight and struggle after being captured. Taking photos of routine activity like subduing detainees should not be raising eyebrows, yet people are flying off the handle over this stuff. I agree it wasn't smart to post them on the internet, given how hypersensitive people are, but there's no scandal here.

8 posted on 12/04/2004 8:01:50 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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This is one of the photos shown as "evidence of abuse" and its AP caption:


Photo apparently showing a prisoner having his picture taken at gunpoint (Photo: AP)

I know absolutely nothing about guns so I don't know if a gun like that would have a light on it but doesn't it look like the light on the man's face is coming from the gun, and that they are just using it to illuminate his face to get the identification picture? And even if it is just a gun pointed at him, so what? These are raids against suspects in a combat zone. Does the AP think we're playing pattycake with these guys? How is this "prisoner abuse"?

This is such a non-story and the media knows it, which is why it's being downplayed for the most part and will blow over by tomorrow.

9 posted on 12/04/2004 8:06:51 PM PST by saquin
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Gotta agree with everyone else. This story is a nonstarter. Won't last through the weekend with anyone that doesn't already hate the military.
11 posted on 12/04/2004 8:09:20 PM PST by ohCompGk
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The media (especially al-Jazeera) are horrified and shocked at this behavior. They've never seen anything like it!


13 posted on 12/04/2004 8:12:48 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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Q. How many American soldiers have the enemy taken prisoner and permitted to live?
A. None
Q. How many times has the International Red Cross and the United Nations condemned the enemy?
A. None
Q. How many times has the MSM reported this fact?
A. None
19 posted on 12/04/2004 8:27:09 PM PST by Goldwater4ever (Voted early, voted often... for Bush)
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Burn them.


22 posted on 12/04/2004 8:37:54 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (You can drive from coast to coast and never pass through a single county won by Kerry.)
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To: pierrem15; acapesket; Trailerpark Badass; Trippin; bin2baghdad; Williams; saquin; ohCompGk; ...
The following link takes you to an article that gives the site that had the photo's I have searched and found nothing. But while formatting this comment our Kansas City channel gave about 3 minutes to this news item.

Navy commandos in new prisoner abuse probe

A reporter found the photos, which since have since been removed from public view, while researching the prosecution of a group of SEALs who allegedly beat prisoners and photographed one of them in degrading positions. Those photos, taken with a SEAL’s personal camera, have not been publicly released.

The images were posted to the internet site Smugmug.com. The woman who posted them told AP they were on the camera her husband brought back from Iraq. She said her husband, who does not appear in photos with prisoners, had returned to Iraq.

24 posted on 12/04/2004 8:38:23 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Lets keep the MSM to the grind stone, stories like this should not be ignored.)
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And then there's that one picture of the guy they made wear a dress!!!! Oh the humanity!!!! I would rather be put in a wood chipper than to be made to wear a dress and THEN get my picture taken!


30 posted on 12/04/2004 9:04:08 PM PST by foobeca
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I've seen the photos and there is NOTHING in them indicative of abuse.


33 posted on 12/04/2004 9:06:58 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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35 posted on 12/04/2004 9:10:23 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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36 posted on 12/04/2004 9:13:59 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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37 posted on 12/04/2004 9:17:05 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Who the hell cares!? I actually commend these Navy SEALs for giving the Islamofacists a taste of their own medicine. (Not beheading and mutilation, we are not sub-humans like they are). So I say OOH-RAH!!


39 posted on 12/04/2004 9:19:35 PM PST by American_4_Ever (America, F yeah!!!!)
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BTTT


62 posted on 12/05/2004 11:51:30 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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