Posted on 12/04/2004 7:48:01 PM PST by Former Military Chick
My impression from anecdotal experience is that no one in this country except the press and other America hating scum give a rat's a$$ about these stories.
okay.. so they cut people's head's off and we put soldiers in prison.. ummm......real clear! Get the "imbed's" out!
Oh no, they SAT on them??!! Oh, the humanity!!!
Posted already.
This story is just such a load of BS. The photo's I have seen is hardly earth-shattering. Stupid maybe, but if I had seen these photo's prior to this "story" I wouldn't even have given it a second thought. You have some SEALS sitting on some detainess lying on the ground and posing for a picture, etc. Big deal.
PS : I can just see the AP reporter who "found" these photo's on the Internet scream "Alluha Akbar" when he found them. He probably cried tears of joy. AP probably gave him a promotion too. This whole thing seems so childish and immature. Was the rporter surfing for porn when he found these pictures. Do they have people sitting around surfing Google all day. It's so stupid.
I've seen several of the pictures. What is the supposed abuse? One showed a smiling SEAL with a thumbs up next to clothed, hooded (and therefore unidentifiable) prisoners. The ONLY thing that suggests to me is the unlawful taking of a personal photograph. Oh, the horror!
Another showed a shirtless prisoner with blood on his chest. I suppose that it's possible that the SEALs abused a prisoner and made him bleed, but blood is not in short supply in a war for many reasons. Is the blood from before or after he was taken prisoner? Why should I assume the worst?
Maybe I missed the pictures that were EVIDENCE of the mistreatment of prisoners. Anybody know what the supposed scandal involves?
There is no story here. Last AP story admitted pics show nothing illegal. Note the military quote in this article is that some people will "use" the photos to cause trouble - not that anything was done wrong.
Ap is trying to make up an issue that these photos "predate" Abu Grahib. Only significant if you believe the U.S, troops are jackbooted Nazis in all their operations.
These are pictures in the midst of raids. Suspects are being held or subdued. In one photo, God forbid, an Iraqi is bleeding. I assume the Marines shoot people too, especially earlier in the war.
AP found these photos by searching military family websites. They show a few Marines in action and try to make something of it. There isn't. The photos do not demonstrate abuse.
This may be news to some people, but a number of terrorists and insurgents actually resist being detained. Yes, unlikely as it seems, many of them will continue to fight and struggle after being captured. Taking photos of routine activity like subduing detainees should not be raising eyebrows, yet people are flying off the handle over this stuff. I agree it wasn't smart to post them on the internet, given how hypersensitive people are, but there's no scandal here.
Photo apparently showing a prisoner having his picture taken at gunpoint (Photo: AP)
I know absolutely nothing about guns so I don't know if a gun like that would have a light on it but doesn't it look like the light on the man's face is coming from the gun, and that they are just using it to illuminate his face to get the identification picture? And even if it is just a gun pointed at him, so what? These are raids against suspects in a combat zone. Does the AP think we're playing pattycake with these guys? How is this "prisoner abuse"?
This is such a non-story and the media knows it, which is why it's being downplayed for the most part and will blow over by tomorrow.
Exactly. There are so many possible explanations, which is why this whole "story" is just so bizarre. The guy with the blood on him could very easily have gotten injured because he resisted arrest. Or maybe the soldier popped him one because he was trying to run away.
Funny thing is, the AP doesn't seem to complain about the pictures showing dead insurgents, but a picture showing a soldier sitting on a freshly captured detainee and suddenly the AP starts using the word "abuse". Oh the humanity! It's like we're living in a parrallel universe.
Alice, meet the Associated Press. Associated Press, meet Alice.
The media (especially al-Jazeera) are horrified and shocked at this behavior. They've never seen anything like it!
Nine more days and it'll have been a year since that photo was taken. Remember the elation?
I don't read the Inquirer anymore. The Evening Bulletin just started and I'm waiting to get it in my area. It's supposed to be a more conservative paper.
Yup. And can't you just smell the rampant hypocrisy of the media?
It is like the media just has to find something to tick off folks and avoiding the truth while they are at it.
The light is probably a Surefire of some kind, which looks like this:
Many M4s and M249s (assault rifles and machineguns) in use by the military have similar lights mounted on them.
You are entirely right, though. These are violent people being detained in very violent place. You want guns and lights on them while you're handling them, as these guys are seen doing. You'd be negligent to do otherwise.
FReegards,
Steel Wolf
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