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Exclusive: How FBI set up AIPAC
Jerusalem Post ^
| 12/5/4
| JANINE ZACHARIA
Posted on 12/04/2004 5:53:55 PM PST by SmithL
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posted on
12/04/2004 5:53:55 PM PST
by
SmithL
To: SmithL
If this is true, it's totally nuts. Everyone knows that the CIA needs to be cleaned out, but so does the FBI. The people responsible for Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City, and the failure to investigate al Qaeda are all still in place, being promoted and rewarded by Sessions.
Sessions must go. Clinton set the precedent when he fired the director of the FBI right before Vincent Foster was killed. Bush has a more legitimate excuse. Sessions was a lousy appointment. Bush needs to find someone competent to take his place and clean house.
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:34:35 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
To: SmithL
News of the initial Franklin-AIPAC lunch broke last summer: CBS led its August 27 Nightly News broadcast with a report of a "full-fledged espionage investigation under way," saying the FBI was about to "roll up" a suspected Israeli "mole" in the office of the secretary of defense in the Pentagon.I wonder if this is an attempt to discredit the Sec. of Defence at the same time.
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:42:20 PM PST
by
airborne
(God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
To: SmithL
"The agents' hope, plainly, was that the AIPAC pair would be so troubled by the apparent life-and-death content of the information from Franklin as to risk a breach of US espionage statutes and transfer what they believed to be classified material to a foreign power, Israel." Let me get this right, our FBI entrapped these men by threatening the death of a colleague? Nobility and loyalty illegal?
This is perverse and evil.
Whoever set these men up should be shot.
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:44:01 PM PST
by
tsomer
To: SmithL
This blows. How are "lobbyists" supposed to know what really is or isn't "classified" and how "classified" could they think it really is if some guy who isn't that inside gives them the info? And how would it be undermining the U.S. to tell someone at the Israeli embassy that Israelis in Kurdish areas may be targetted?
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:45:38 PM PST
by
Cinnamon Girl
(OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
To: SmithL
FBI agents used a courier...to draw two senior AIPAC officials who already knew him into accepting what he described to them as "classified" information...One of the AIPAC pair then told diplomats at the Israeli Embassy in Washington about the "classified" information, which claimed Iranians were monitoring and planning to kidnap and kill Israelis operating in the Kurdish areas in northern Iraq.
It is unclear whether the "classified" information was real or bogus.
Saving a human life however is not "bogus".
[PSSSSST, Over here pal! I heard that XXXX has plans and are ready to kidnap and kill your family. Here's the info, but don't try to stop them.]
When the almost the rest of the UN is against you and everything you stand for what is the point of setting up one of the few friendly nations?
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:46:07 PM PST
by
perfect stranger
(Godel, Escher and Bach. The Eternal Golden Braid)
To: SmithL
If I knew of confidential information that may be used to save the lives of allies of the United States(in this case Israel), I'd pass it along also.
Also,
"A Washington criminal justice expert said Friday that the issuing of the subpoenas suggested the FBI was "getting ready to indict."
Since when does the FBI have the same power as the Department of Justice? I am under the assumption that the FBI is purely an Federal investigative police agency and don't have the power to 'indict' anyone.
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:47:24 PM PST
by
moonman
To: Cicero
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:54:33 PM PST
by
lancer
(If you are not with us, you are against us!)
To: tsomer
"perverse and evil" And criminal. Treason.
Treason is what the FBI did. It was an act of ciminal treason. Providing aid and comfort to our enemies in Iran and Iraq.
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:55:08 PM PST
by
bvw
To: SmithL
It was criminal treason on the part of the FBI. You do NOT endanger the lifes of allies on the ground with you in enemy territory without it being a form of Treason.
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:56:58 PM PST
by
bvw
To: Cicero
Why go thru this much trouble to set up an Israeli PAC when there are many others PACs that openly work with the enemy?willing to do much worse? Like ACLU, PP, NEA, NOW ect.
IIRC when Hoover set up the FBI he had the idea that it should be swept clean every 10 years.
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posted on
12/04/2004 6:59:36 PM PST
by
perfect stranger
(Godel, Escher and Bach. The Eternal Golden Braid)
To: Shermy; Fedora
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posted on
12/04/2004 7:15:30 PM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
To: Cicero
First of all Sessions has been gone for years. The current FBI Director's name is Mueller. A former Deputy Attorney General. Louis Freeh, a former agent, Assistant U.S. Attorney and Federal Judge preceded Mueller. Second, what did FBI have to do with Oklahoma City? It seems to me they caught the guy pretty quickly and he was executed. I know conspiracy theorists abound, but McVey admitted it, and recent revelations show so did Terry Nicols. Thirdly, Ruby Ridge was a U.S. Marshals operation were they tried to execute a warrant for a white-supremist wanted on gun charges. Two Marshals were killed in initial raid. FBI sniper, called in much later was given order to shoot at an armed suspect out side cabin who was shooting at police helicopter. Hit his intended target, but bullet passed through him and killed suspects wife. Not exactly Gestapo tactics. Fourthly, WACO was an ATF operation. Several ATF agents killed in initial raid. Real problem was standoff was allowed to continue for so long. Crazy branch Davidian's set themselves on fire. I know attacks on FBI were common to get at Clinton, but real stories of all these incidents is seldom told. As to this story, don't believe everything you read. Israel is biggest spy on US. Ever hear of Julius and Ethel ROSENBERG? Of course Jerusalem Post calls it a set up. Note they "already knew" the guy who allegedly passed the "set up" information and that he himself was under investigation! Do you think maybe, he had already passed classified info to Israeli's and was caught and asked to do it again as part of a plea deal, like any good investigator might do?? Maybe?? Do You think???
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posted on
12/04/2004 7:17:04 PM PST
by
jedgarlives
(Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush/Bush/Clinton? it could happen)
To: jedgarlives
Read the entire article, sentence by sentence. Then look for the actual "facts".
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posted on
12/04/2004 7:30:49 PM PST
by
acapesket
(never had a vote count in all my years here)
To: jedgarlives
"Thirdly, Ruby Ridge was a U.S. Marshals operation were they tried to execute a warrant for a white-supremist wanted on gun charges." Not true - they did not have a warrant. They were surveilling.
FBI sniper, called in much later was given order to shoot at an armed suspect out side cabin who was shooting at police helicopter.
Not true-- no shots were fired at helicopter.
Hit his intended target, but bullet passed through him and killed suspects wife.
Not true -- bullet passed through Vickie Weaver first, then wounded Weaver's friend.
Source --- Idaho vs. Houriuchi
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posted on
12/04/2004 7:33:00 PM PST
by
gatex
To: jedgarlives
What a mess your brain is.
Israel is biggest spy on US. Ever hear of Julius and Ethel ROSENBERG? Of course Jerusalem Post calls it a set up.
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were spying for the Soviet Union.
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posted on
12/04/2004 7:44:34 PM PST
by
bad company
(I'm a new Grandpa.)
To: SmithL
The FBI is bad news for Jews.
The FBI is bad news for Americans.
The FBI is bad news.
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posted on
12/04/2004 9:26:48 PM PST
by
sarah_f
(Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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posted on
12/04/2004 11:03:29 PM PST
by
yonif
("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
To: FarRightTexasDude
Congratulations!
Pollard and the Liberty not only in one post, but one sentence!!
A+Bert sends his best!
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posted on
12/04/2004 11:06:17 PM PST
by
sarah_f
(Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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