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Bias Beyond a Reasonable Doubt: Yes, the media are overwhelmingly liberal.
The Weekly Standard ^ | December 13, 2004 | Robert J. Barro

Posted on 12/04/2004 3:29:07 PM PST by quidnunc

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Robert J. Barro is Paul M. Warburg Professor of Economics at Harvard University and a senior fellow of the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.
1 posted on 12/04/2004 3:29:08 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Thank heavens for the Hoover Institute at Stanford.
2 posted on 12/04/2004 3:37:41 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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To: quidnunc
The main finding is that among 20 major outlets, Fox News and the Washington Times emerge as conservative, but the other 18 range from slightly to substantially left of center.

But we already knew that, didn't we?
3 posted on 12/04/2004 3:40:44 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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To: quidnunc

I've been using this research for months whenever liberal friends go on about how perception of media bias is all subjective. No one has ever offered a good critique that puts the study's conclusions in doubt.


4 posted on 12/04/2004 3:40:44 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: quidnunc

Allyou need to know is how the MSM DID NOT cover the numerous Clinton--Gore--Kerry scandals and how they blew out of proportion anything related to the GOP


5 posted on 12/04/2004 3:46:22 PM PST by uncbob
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To: quidnunc

So, Barro has now come out as conservative pundit? He's the right answer to Krugman. They're both respectable economists. Barro, I think, with his Ricardian Equivalence and a textbook that's used in all graduate school in economics, is more famous now, and has more chance of getting a Nobel.


6 posted on 12/04/2004 4:11:22 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: uncbob

They will counter, as Clinton himself did do recently, that ABC news and others covered the Monica scandal "relentlessly." Of course, they represented it as being about sex, and not about perjury, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, etc, but, they did cover it.


7 posted on 12/04/2004 4:19:50 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: paudio

Donald Luskin's been doing a good job with his Krugman Truth Squad.


8 posted on 12/04/2004 4:40:28 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Terpfen

Liberals are never smart enough to shut their mouth when it is going to offend someone.

Conservatives, however, are smart enough. Thus, you rarely see a conservative spouting off in a crowd of people whereas Liberals always are. Hence, the cocktail circuit is full of Liberals while conservative just play along. It is how politically-correct biases continue to spread.

Conservatives are the "silent majority".

At election time, the silent majority gets to speak.

But the unfortunate side-effect, is that campuses seem to be overwhelmingly full of Liberal professors and in the media, "group think" forces the media to appear Liberal when in fact lots of consevatives are just playing along in the background. Political-correctness takes over and people's real feelings do not get to the surface.

Do we have to speak up? Or is it just better to remain respected (in your workplace, on campus, in the producers lounge) and not come off as a hothead like all Liberals seem to come off as.

I think conservative Freepers understand what I'm saying.


9 posted on 12/04/2004 4:54:38 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: Max Combined
From the posted article: "One surprise is that the Wall Street Journal's news pages have the most liberal rating of all, 85"

Hmm... although I'm allergic to liberals, I must somehow have overlooked this one. It DOES come as a surprise.

10 posted on 12/04/2004 5:43:44 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob
"It DOES come as a surprise."

Not to me. Al Hunt was running the news pages of the WSJ until recently.
11 posted on 12/04/2004 5:51:09 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: JustDoItAlways
"Or is it just better to remain respected (in your workplace, on campus, in the producers lounge) and not come off as a hothead like all Liberals seem to come off as."

I think it is best to skewer the leftist viewpoint with an apt, humorous, and wry brief remark, if one is able to come up with one at the proper time.
12 posted on 12/04/2004 5:54:28 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: coloradan
They will counter, as Clinton himself did do recently, that ABC news and others covered the Monica scandal "relentlessly." Of course, they represented it as being about sex, and not about perjury, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, etc, but, they did cover it.

Yeah they covered it BUT never any of David Schippers on 60 minutes with his book Sell Out

No Chicom $$ coverage--No Al Gore using the WH to raise funds--No clinton using the IRS against ALL the conservative groups--No Travel Office Coverage-- No entering all the FBI files into Clinton computer coverage--No James MacDougal In Jail coverage--No leaking Linda Tripps Files coverage--No Hillary Clinton Travel Office record found in The WH coverage ETC ETC ETC

Any one of these scandals would have been covered IN DEPTH and night after night and been enough to bring down a GOP president
13 posted on 12/04/2004 7:15:52 PM PST by uncbob
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To: quidnunc

I'm saddened... deeply saddened. I guess I won't be able to use this one much longer with Tom Daschle being relegated to the ash heap of history.


14 posted on 12/04/2004 8:05:40 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Max Combined

What a surprise.


15 posted on 12/04/2004 8:07:56 PM PST by meema
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To: quidnunc

I have something of a problem with this study.

They "...start with the ratings of members' voting records issued by Americans for Democratic Action (ADA), a self-described liberal organization...The ADA score has a 0-100 scale, with 0 meaning that a legislator voted with the ADA 0 percent of the time and 100 signifying 100 percent agreement."

It seems to me, then, that any score greater than zero shows a liberal bias.

They go on to say, "On this scale, the average ADA score for 1995-99 in the House and Senate was 50.1...If members of Congress reflect the views of their constituents, we can view "50" as close to the position of the average voter."

I don't think that bears any relationship to the real world. If you take 50 people who score 100 and fifty people who score zero, the mean is going to be 50, but that doesn't mean there's even a single individual whose views are anywhere near 50.

Besides, if "the average voter," that chimera, scores 50, that means he agrees with the left half the time, which is a gross liberal bias.

"Bill Frist had 10"

Is that a good thing? Why did he agree with the raving moonbats from Planet Commie Nutbar ten percent of the time?

Next, they adjust a member's score according to his tendency to cite conservative or commie nutbar think tanks. That's good, and a step in the right direction, but they are applying that adjustment to a measure that is already skewed to the left.

It seems to me that a proper methodology would extend both ways from zero, so that a person like Frist would be assigned not a 10, but an R90, and Ted Kennedy would receive an L89. The difference between Frist and Kennedy, then, would be not 79, but 179, and the measure of liberal bias might be the difference between the average of R scores and the average of L scores.

The study correctly notes that the human garbage who befoul most of our media have a media bias, but I think it grossly understates the degree of that bias.


16 posted on 12/04/2004 9:03:56 PM PST by dsc (LIBERALS: If we weren't so darned civilized, there'd be a bounty on them.)
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To: uncbob

Complete agreement from me.


17 posted on 12/05/2004 7:51:01 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: JustDoItAlways

I highly - very highly - recommend Ann Coulter's new book, "How to Talk to a Liberal (if you must)"

She has very perceptive recommendations. Read it, even if only the first chapter or two.


18 posted on 12/05/2004 10:41:44 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: quidnunc; GOPcapitalist; BUSHdude2000; Dog Gone

FYI


19 posted on 12/05/2004 10:54:20 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (May God Bless the President)
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To: uncbob

Excellent cite of some of the stories that have been ignored by the Old Media ad the FRAUDcasters. I would add to it such things as Hussein's torture chambers and the Loral/Chicom/'Toon giveaway of our national satellite secrets as well as the 'Toon's ignoring Pakistan/India and their quest to get nukes as well as shovelling hay over the Berger Soxgate and the 9/11 commissions true findings. So many stories could have brought down the 'Toon, or vindicated other Republican policies, but the Old Mediots continue to be able to obfuscate their own culpability in the major shortcomings that America has had to deal with.

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20 posted on 12/05/2004 11:00:16 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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