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Putin calls for more U.N. veto power
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 12/4/04 | Neelesh Misra - AP

Posted on 12/04/2004 9:04:41 AM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW DELHI (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin rejected a key recommendation of a United Nations panel on expanding the Security Council, saying Saturday that any reform would be one-sided if new members did not have veto power.

Putin also backed India's aims to become a permanent member. A high-level U.N. panel called Wednesday for expanding the 15-nation Security Council as part of a sweeping revamp of the world body. The panel presented two options: adding six new permanent members or creating a new tier of eight semi-permanent members - two each from Asia, Africa, Europe and the Americas.

However, panel members agreed that only the current five permanent members - the post-World War II powers the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France - should retain veto power.

Putin disagreed.

"If we go to the enlargement of the permanent seats of the Security Council, I am convinced that they should have the veto power," Putin was quoted as saying by Associated Press Television News. "Otherwise, it will be a one-sided reform of the United Nations."

The panel was commissioned by U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan after last year's bitter divisions over the U.S.-led war in Iraq. The United States had to abandon an attempt to get U.N. approval because of sharp opposition from France, Germany, Russia and other council members.

A possible council expansion has been on the U.N. agenda for more than a decade. But expansion faces major obstacles, including decisions on how large it should be, which countries should be permanent and which countries should have veto power.

Putin said if there was no veto for the new members, all vetoes would have to go.

"If we agree that future permanent members should not have veto power, the next step would be the abolition of veto power," he said. "But the veto power is an efficient instrument of international relations."

Brazil, Germany, India and Japan have joined forces to lobby for permanent seats.

In meetings with Indian officials, Putin "felt that India as a new member should have the full rights of permanent membership, including the right of veto," India's foreign ministry said in a statement. "If India achieves a permanent seat in the Security Council, it cannot be a permanent member of a second rank."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: axisofevil; axisofweasels; elbaradei; iaea; napalminthemorning; neoeunazis; power; putin; religionofpeace; unitednations; unreform; veto; wot

1 posted on 12/04/2004 9:04:42 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Great idea, Pootie Poot!

How about we let Ukraine in? :D


2 posted on 12/04/2004 9:05:51 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: NormsRevenge

They can have our empty seat, and host the UN elsewhere after we leave and boot them all out!


3 posted on 12/04/2004 9:06:56 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Russian President Vladimir Putin rejected a key recommendation of a United Nations panel on expanding the Security Council, saying Saturday that any reform would be one-sided if new members did not have veto power.

I'm up for giving new members veto power. Anything that jams the works in the UN has my vote.

4 posted on 12/04/2004 9:08:21 AM PST by inquest (Now is the time to remove the leftist influence from the GOP. "Unity" can wait.)
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To: DTogo

I think their new headquarters should be in a double wide that moves from genocide to genocide.


5 posted on 12/04/2004 9:09:06 AM PST by RtWngr (Being tolerant of the intolerant is pretty stupid actually.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I've said it before--just before:

Putin: World's largest producer of gall

:) worth repeating?


6 posted on 12/04/2004 9:10:28 AM PST by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: inquest
Does veto power extend to the election of a new Secretary General? Can the US stop Bubba from taking that office. Like you, I'm all for making the UN as ineffectual as possible but if Putin's FOR the new member veto I'm skeptical that it'll be advantageous for the US. And if Bubba's on his way in then the UN should be castrated before he can do his handywork
7 posted on 12/04/2004 9:20:02 AM PST by ProfoundMan (It's not a scandal, it's a WAR !)
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To: ProfoundMan
Personally, I think it would be a riot if Clinton took over the SG slot. Each year the "American Sovereignty Restoration Act" is introduced to the House of Representatives, and each year it gets more votes than the year before. Having Sink in charge of it would cause that number to spike considerably, I'd wager.
8 posted on 12/04/2004 9:27:02 AM PST by inquest (Now is the time to remove the leftist influence from the GOP. "Unity" can wait.)
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To: RtWngr
LOL!!

With a white flag on top, courtesy of the French!

9 posted on 12/04/2004 9:29:16 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Russia . . .

U.S. . . .

UN . . .

Any questions, Monsieur Putin?

10 posted on 12/04/2004 12:54:19 PM PST by geedee (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.)
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To: inquest

They will only jam moves to the right-while greasing any moves to the left.

Too many sonovabitches have veto power already.


11 posted on 12/04/2004 7:42:34 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you were still in the womb, would you trust your life to Specter the defector?????)
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To: NormsRevenge
Brazil, Germany, India and Japan have joined forces to lobby for permanent seats.

Soon to be followed by Mexico, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, and "Palestine"

12 posted on 12/04/2004 7:45:15 PM PST by SaveTheChief ("It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech." - Senator Zell Miller)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
France, Russia, and China have veto power. Any one of them could block a "move to the right" (as if such a thing were possible at the UN anyway). Adding more vetoing members will only frustrate their ambitions.
13 posted on 12/05/2004 1:18:26 PM PST by inquest (Now is the time to remove the leftist influence from the GOP. "Unity" can wait.)
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To: DTogo

I'm with you. We don't need our seat anymore. And tell them to not let the door hit them on the clymer.
We'll be making townhouses or something out of the old building.


14 posted on 12/05/2004 3:42:38 PM PST by meema
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To: meema

My thoughts exactly - some nice townhouses and/or office space!


15 posted on 12/05/2004 3:49:20 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: NormsRevenge


Don't trust the weasel.
Seeking to strengthen the Axis of Weasels.
16 posted on 12/05/2004 3:56:38 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: NormsRevenge
Putin also backed India's aims to become a permanent member.
If India goes in, there will doubtless be turmoil about Pakistan's being let in. Other than that, and a veto power, having India as a permanent member would be a good idea IMHO.
The United States had to abandon an attempt to get U.N. approval because of sharp opposition from France, Germany, Russia and other council members.
If all the members of the UNSC had a veto power, the UNSC would cease to have any function. That's probably what Putin has in mind.
Brazil, Germany, India and Japan have joined forces to lobby for permanent seats.
Brazil goes in, then what about the rest of South America, which for the most part speaks something other than Portugeuse. As with India/Pakistan, there would be turmoil.

Perhaps the veto power should go, and simultaneously the UNSC should be reduced in size to the five permanent members. However, the veto power was put in there in order to mollify Stalin, and it has served to prevent creeping loss of sovereignty. Molotov demanded the right to veto debate (not just resolutions), something Stalin upbraided him for, saying, "Molotov, was is this madness? It is a small right."

17 posted on 12/07/2004 11:47:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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