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CA Supreme Court Rules: Defendants should pay if a public benefit results (sic!)
LA Times ^ | 12/3/04 | Maura Dolan

Posted on 12/03/2004 8:29:24 PM PST by SierraWasp

Justices Uphold Lawyer Fees in Advocacy Suits
Defendants should pay if a public benefit results, even if there are no damages, panel says.

By Maura Dolan Times Staff Writer

December 3, 2004

SAN FRANCISCO — Lawyers for advocacy groups and others who file cases that achieve a public benefit should be rewarded by requiring defendants to pay their legal fees, a sharply divided California Supreme Court ruled Thursday.

Justice Carlos R. Moreno, who wrote the 4-3 decisions in two related cases, said lawyers need incentives to bring lawsuits that generate beneficial changes but often produce little or no money in damages. The fees should be paid even in cases that never go to court or result in formal settlements, the court ruled.

In one of the two cases, consumers sued DaimlerChrysler over trucks that could not pull loads nearly as heavy as advertised. In the other case, civil rights groups sued the Los Angeles Police Department over racial and sex discrimination. Neither suit went to trial, but both led the defendants to make substantial changes in their policies.

Most public-interest legal groups — organizations that bring suits on environmental, civil liberties and consumer issues — are on the liberal side of the political spectrum, and the ruling brought a strongly worded dissent from three conservative justices who said it would spur needless lawsuits.

Dissenting Justice Ming W. Chin warned that the ruling puts California out of step with the rest of the country and that the state may become a mecca for trial lawyers. The rulings come at a time when many courts elsewhere, including the U.S. Supreme Court, have sharply cut legal-fee awards.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; allegators; bench; extortion; fees; junk; lawyers; litigators; stench; suits
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"Most public-interest legal groups — organizations that bring suits on environmental, civil liberties and consumer issues — are on the liberal side of the political spectrum, and the ruling brought a strongly worded dissent from three conservative justices who said it would spur needless lawsuits."

THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED OR CA IS DOOMED!!!

1 posted on 12/03/2004 8:29:26 PM PST by SierraWasp
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2 posted on 12/03/2004 8:32:52 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: SierraWasp

Get out. Get out of that foul, stinking toilet NOW. Run, don't walk.
That is all.


3 posted on 12/03/2004 8:35:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
Reminds me of... "We don't swim in your toilet, so please don't pee in our pool!"

Yes... Here we have lawyers in the highest court supporting the Lawyers Full Employment Even At Taxpayers Expense Act!!!

Roger Hedgecock was talking about the Federal Statute that allows this for Civil Rights cases, today on Rush's Show.

5 posted on 12/03/2004 8:43:31 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; Fiddlstix

I agree. They're doomed. Doomed I tell you!


6 posted on 12/03/2004 8:44:44 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative)
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To: blahdeblah
"Anti-Christ Lawyers Union (ACLU)"

Hey! That's great!!!

7 posted on 12/03/2004 8:44:45 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: writer33

Who? Them, er US???


8 posted on 12/03/2004 8:45:38 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

We will have to invade Calif and make it a State.


9 posted on 12/03/2004 8:45:52 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Wull... HURRY UP!!!


10 posted on 12/03/2004 8:47:06 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

The courts. This is utterly despicable. This is why things go to a federal level. The state of California needs to clean this up. And the people of California need to lead the charge. It's a difficult problem to overcome.


11 posted on 12/03/2004 8:47:36 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative)
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To: SierraWasp
Are you *^%$#*&^ me?

Incredible!!!

12 posted on 12/03/2004 8:48:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: writer33

Like obscenity... You recognize it when you see it, In the LA Times!!!


13 posted on 12/03/2004 8:49:19 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

This is the exact opposite of tort reform.

This will inspire far more lawsuits and will give lots more strength to plaintiffs to blackmail defendants into settling out of court.

This is hell on earth and had undone any good Arnold started to do on the business end here in California.

What business will want to move to an area like this now where not only do employees have an ability to sue over nothing, but now they can have the employer be stuck with the bill for both ends of the debacle.

I want to cuss so bad in my comments. I only don't do so out of respect for FR.


14 posted on 12/03/2004 8:49:24 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SierraWasp

Yep. I'm glad I'm in Nevada. You may consider relocating soon. It's so messed up out there already that it may become unfixable if it continues.


15 posted on 12/03/2004 8:51:34 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative)
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To: A CA Guy

More feeding at the public trough.


16 posted on 12/03/2004 8:52:01 PM PST by TYVets
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To: SierraWasp
"lawyers need incentives to bring lawsuits" Is this the ultimate lawyer joke?
17 posted on 12/03/2004 8:53:24 PM PST by ucsd1974
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To: SierraWasp

18 posted on 12/03/2004 8:54:29 PM PST by seastay
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To: SierraWasp
Defendants should pay if a public benefit results

So who defines or decides what is or isn't a public benefit? This is really scary.

19 posted on 12/03/2004 8:55:05 PM PST by umgud (Donate monthly, don't be a Freeploader)
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To: writer33
They're doomed. Doomed I tell you!


20 posted on 12/03/2004 8:55:29 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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