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Indianapolis police train to use M-16 rifles
WHAS ^ | 12/01/2004

Posted on 12/03/2004 1:54:14 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

Twenty Indianapolis police officers were training to use M-16 rifles, with the weapons expected to be available to patrol officers by the end of the week, officials said.

"There are specific situations where they are going to be used," Deputy Chief James Reno said. "It gives us other options. This may be something they can have in their arsenal."

Indianapolis police have faced the same types of weapons several times in recent years, The Indianapolis Star reported Wednesday.

In August, a man fired an SKS-style rifle in a southside neighborhood and killed Patrolman Timothy "Jake" Laird from more than 150 yards away.

"I think it's a great weapon," said Marlon Douglas, one of the officers being trained to carry the M-16. "After the Jake Laird incident, we just want to make sure we're ready for anything."

The department is using the Colt M-16, A1, the same rifle used by American troops during the Vietnam War. The department bought the 218 surplus weapons from a federal armory in Illinois, the Star reported.

The rifles were modified to remove the automatic firing capability. The original rifle can keep firing for as long as the shooter holds the trigger, while these rifles fire just one shot for each squeeze, officials said.

Police officials said they will distribute the M-16s to officers who work different shifts and districts so the weapons will always be available.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: bang; leo; m16
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To: rdb3

So they'll use the three round burst instead of the fully automatic.

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Not at all! The M-16A1 does NOT have 3 round burst capability. That is only in the A2 model. If they remove the full auto funcion, it merely becomes a semi-automatic, which they could buy at any licensed gun dealer.


21 posted on 12/03/2004 3:22:32 PM PST by SFC Chromey (Did 13 months in Iraq and of COURSE I voted for BUSH!)
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To: rellimpank

I concur.


22 posted on 12/03/2004 3:23:30 PM PST by SFC Chromey (Did 13 months in Iraq and of COURSE I voted for BUSH!)
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To: libstripper

"It fires a a .308 round instead of a 7.62x39" M-16 fires a 5.56, the 7.62x39 is what the sks/ak fires.


23 posted on 12/03/2004 3:30:27 PM PST by eastforker (Ask me about a free satellite TV system!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

AR-10 rules, baby.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as16-e.htm


24 posted on 12/03/2004 3:31:48 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Hope they spend some time at the range.

the problem being, the gun grabbers have made shooting ranges that can accomodate these weapons, very few and far between. I recently rebuilt a range for a small county in IN to handle the weapons from nearby counties that were too "populated" to allow them.

25 posted on 12/03/2004 3:33:39 PM PST by digger48
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The rifles were modified to remove the automatic firing capability

Unless they were built on new recievers, the BATFE still considers them machine guns. If the arsenal can do the rebuild for police, why not for sale to The People via the CMP? Hmm?

Although I think I'd rather have a reworked M-14 myself. Oh heck, I'll take one of each.

26 posted on 12/03/2004 3:35:02 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: edchambers
Uh... wouldn't that make them AR15s? Not that there's anything wrong with that but wouldn't you rather have a new AR15 than a stripped down or modified M16A1?

I would, and I'm sure they would as well. But their cost is considerably lower this way. Possible as low as zero, if the feds are providing the weapons. Even if they had to pay for the new stripped lower, and for the cost of reassembly, they'd still save a lot of money over buying new AR-15s.

27 posted on 12/03/2004 3:38:54 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: rdb3

Actually, they'll use the M16A4, which is semi-auto only - 1 pull, 1 round.


28 posted on 12/03/2004 3:42:52 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

WoW!!!


29 posted on 12/03/2004 3:43:31 PM PST by Whataday
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To: edchambers

It would technically only be an AR15 if they had additionally removed the flash supressor - and I don't believe they did.


30 posted on 12/03/2004 3:44:35 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: libstripper

.308 is the same as the 7.62.


31 posted on 12/03/2004 3:46:01 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Remember the North Hollywood shootout in February 1997 between LAPD and a small group of bank robbers?
The bad guys were dressed in full body armor and carried fully automatic weapons. Do you remember what the
cops were armed with?


32 posted on 12/03/2004 3:50:58 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
9MMs and 12 gauge shotguns IIRC.

At least until some kind gun store owner passed out some ARs to those hopelessly outgunned cops.

L

33 posted on 12/03/2004 4:01:06 PM PST by Lurker (As a matter of fact, I do serve Satan. Don't let that bother you. My duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: Lurker

Your tagline says you serve the evil one. Is that true?


34 posted on 12/03/2004 4:32:37 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
7.? ?ianapolis police officers were training to use M-16 rifles, with the weapons expected to be available to patrol officers by the end of the week, officials said.

Plenty of time for practice.

The Pistons won't be in town until 12 -25.

35 posted on 12/03/2004 4:36:27 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Freebird Forever

Awww.... Christmas with the Pistons.


36 posted on 12/03/2004 4:57:05 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Hardly.

It's called 'sarcasm'. I used that line once during dinner with the west coast Liberals in my family.

No offense meant to you.

L

38 posted on 12/03/2004 6:37:19 PM PST by Lurker (As a matter of fact, I do serve Satan. Don't let that bother you. My duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Why not cut to the chase and give the cops ground attack aircraft and artillery.

Domestic disturbance on Maple Street? No problem, take out the whole block.

Like Stalin said, "Better to hang 100 innocent men than let one guilty one go free."


39 posted on 12/03/2004 6:44:27 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: digger48

Pratice practice practice. You are right. 10 years ago I could drive 5 minutes and shoot. Now I have to drive 30 minutes. People want to build a sub division in every field and whine about noise. Then they put up their dang mercury vapor lights so that my telescope can't see the stars. I wish people from the city would stay there.


40 posted on 12/03/2004 7:19:15 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (This space is available to advertise your service or product.)
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