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Christians to cool controversy with carols
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 12-3-04 | Jean Torkelson

Posted on 12/03/2004 8:10:28 AM PST by mondoman

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When my wife told me about this controversy upon my return from a business trip, I replied, "The Christians should show up and sing REAL Christmas Carolls on each and every street corner throughout the parade and for the remaining Christmas season."
1 posted on 12/03/2004 8:10:29 AM PST by mondoman
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I love it. I absolutely love it!


2 posted on 12/03/2004 8:19:27 AM PST by Humidston (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1282122/posts - Blood on the Potomac!)
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"The Christians should show up and sing REAL Christmas Carolls on each and every street corner throughout the parade and for the remaining Christmas season."

Mondoman, and do one more deliberate action. Say boldly, "Merry Christmas" to anyone you connect with this month -- at the Starbuck's, while shopping, at work. We have all been conditioned to say "Happy Holidays" without even realizing it and I have found myself, even today, having to force myself to say "Merry Christmas."

3 posted on 12/03/2004 8:21:15 AM PST by tom h
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Everywhere I have shopped I have wished folks a Merry Christmas. Here everyone replies with the same.


4 posted on 12/03/2004 8:26:44 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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"Nobody in this crowd is going to engage in civil disobedience," said Mary Beth Klee, division chief in charge of special operations. She added, "I hope their hot chocolate is good."

I hope she gets her cup of hot chocolate with marshmallows too.
5 posted on 12/03/2004 8:29:28 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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Say boldly, "Merry Christmas" to anyone you connect with this month -- at the Starbuck's, while shopping, at work. We have all been conditioned to say "Happy Holidays" without even realizing it and I have found myself, even today, having to force myself to say "Merry Christmas."

I never ever say Happy Holidays, it makes no sense. By the same token, I don't say Merry Christmas to everyone I connect with. Why on earth would I wish a non Christian a Merry Christmas?

If a person is Jewish, and I know it, I don't wish them a happy Easter. It's the same thing.

6 posted on 12/03/2004 8:33:32 AM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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"On Thursday, Jim Basey, president of the partnership, issued a statement saying parade officials are "saddened" to have inadvertently created such division."

INO "We got caught."

The internet means getting caught with your pants on fire.


7 posted on 12/03/2004 8:38:10 AM PST by OpusatFR
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BTTT


8 posted on 12/03/2004 8:58:39 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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Good thoughts. But in the old days, respect for someone else meant honoring what was important to them, if they were different.

I was raised Catholic but in a neighborhood with lots of American Jews. I used to say "Happy Hanukkah" and was invited to lots of bar mitzvahs. So there is no reason why a Jew or a Muslim in my neighborhood should feel uncomfortable, during the Christmas season, hearing "Merry Christmas" or saying it. After all, the season is Christmas.

That's the old America I grew up in. But try saying "Merry Christmas" to a liberal Jew or a radical Muslim and wait for the glare; or better yet wait for them to wish you "Merry Christmas." You'll be waiting an awful long time.

So, forgive me, but this is Christmas season and I will say it to anyone and everyone. Partly because it is Christmas season. And partly because Christians have been on the defensive for so long, during their own season, that it's time to turn the tables.

9 posted on 12/03/2004 9:02:11 AM PST by tom h
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Where's the float from "Animal House" when you need it?


10 posted on 12/03/2004 9:05:28 AM PST by aomagrat (Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.)
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I was raised Catholic but in a neighborhood with lots of American Jews. I used to say "Happy Hanukkah" and was invited to lots of bar mitzvahs.

I don't see a thing wrong with that, or them wishing ME a Merry Christmas. I always say thank you when they do.

So there is no reason why a Jew or a Muslim in my neighborhood should feel uncomfortable, during the Christmas season, hearing "Merry Christmas" or saying it.

They shouldn't. But I wouldn't wish them one. They don't believe in it. Would I say "Happy Ramadan" to a jew? Or a Christian? Not me, makes no sense.

That's the old America I grew up in. But try saying "Merry Christmas" to a liberal Jew or a radical Muslim and wait for the glare; or better yet wait for them to wish you "Merry Christmas." You'll be waiting an awful long time.

Yep, that's the reason I don't say it.

So, forgive me, but this is Christmas season and I will say it to anyone and everyone. Partly because it is Christmas season. And partly because Christians have been on the defensive for so long, during their own season, that it's time to turn the tables.

Go ahead, but it makes no sense, and if they look at you quizzically, you will deserve it. Why foist your religion on someone else? It's a Christian holiday, not a holiday for everyone. If they want to celebrate Christ's birth, let them become believers.

You can't make it less secular by making it more secular.

11 posted on 12/03/2004 9:35:36 AM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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ummmHAHAHA!!! (/evil laugh)


12 posted on 12/03/2004 9:43:22 AM PST by mondoman (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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Regarding your sentiments in post 9;, I agree. When I say "Merry Christmas" it is because I am sharing the joy of the season that I truly feel. That reflects the background I come from. If someone doesn't understand that - then that is THEIR problem. The "Happy Hannukah" directed at me will be accepted, joyfully, with a "Thank you - and Happy Hannukah to you!" in reply to that generously-offered greeting.

I find myself saying "Merry Christmas" more often than I used to. Let them glare if they want to.

I have, so far, gotten a smile and a "Merry Christmas" (sometimes surprised), from everybody in return.


13 posted on 12/03/2004 9:51:45 AM PST by sneakers
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While "Merry Christmas" is a Christian tradition. I have seen non-Christians use the term. For example, last Christmas, my Muslim boyfriend and his Jewish friend, shook hands and said "Merry Christmas." Ironic isn't it?


14 posted on 12/03/2004 10:03:35 AM PST by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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For example, last Christmas, my Muslim boyfriend and his Jewish friend, shook hands and said "Merry Christmas." Ironic isn't it?

It's not ironic as much as "mission accomplished". Secularization is the goal.

Just wondering, are you going to marry your Muslim boyfriend?

15 posted on 12/03/2004 10:06:40 AM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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The....(Anti-Christian) parade, which costs about $300,000 to produce, does not use public funds. The partnership is a consortium of 350 downtown companies that formed a special assessment district to seed programs to promote and enhance downtown Denver.

/sarcasm

.........shop 'christian' Boulder?

16 posted on 12/03/2004 10:12:04 AM PST by maestro
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Christians have finally discovered how much power we have when we stand up and fight evil in HIS name. I wish I was there to participate. God Bless all of those who turn out to show their love for Christ.


17 posted on 12/03/2004 10:31:14 AM PST by NRA2BFree
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"It's not ironic as much as "mission accomplished". Secularization is the goal."

I'm not sure I agree that secularism, in this regard, is good. After all, we wouldn't have Christmas if not for Jesus Christ's birth. People in general don't take every single word they say so seriously, like say the ACLU might think. My point really is that the term "Merry Christmas" doesn't have to be offensive, if you don't let it.

And in answer to your question, we're engaged.


18 posted on 12/03/2004 10:35:48 AM PST by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: sneakers
Bingo. We Christians have been on the defensive for years and now's the time for some offense -- albeit, politely done.

You'll notice that most store clerks have been instructed to say "Happy Holidays." But saying "Merry Christmas" to them first usually elicits a smile, as you said, and sometimes a whispered "Merry Christmas" is reply.

We'll take the country back, one heart at a time.

19 posted on 12/03/2004 10:38:55 AM PST by tom h
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Congratulations.

But, don't go visit his family in the Middle East.


20 posted on 12/03/2004 10:40:04 AM PST by Skooz (Kerry Voters = Parasites of Freedom: 56,936,504 Americans obeyed Osama's orders)
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