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To: Cold Heat
You state a good theory, BUT, it's too late for the government to do anything except declare amnesty.

We, the people, don't want amnesty given.

Therefore, we, the people, and the government are at an impasse.

There will be vigilanteism, beatings, riots, and blood in the streets before it's all over.

39 posted on 12/03/2004 1:40:33 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
There will be vigilantism, beatings, riots, and blood in the streets before it's all over.

I would hope not, mostly because there is nothing but conjecture and innuendo to fight over.

A two paragraph proposal by Bush with no specifics that has been mislabeled amnesty. There is and will be little else because the entire thing has been stuffed by naysayers who are armed with rhetoric.

There will be no fight, because unless reforms are done, then nothing at all will be done and the problem, as it has for years, will continue to escalate.

I suggest we all get together in a conference with all sides represented and hammer out some fixes, because whatever we have now is obviously not getting the job done.

Allowing people to work here legally is not amnesty, it is a run of the mill ex-pat program. I goes on all over the world with every country. It is temporary and time specific, and the person stays at the will of the host country.

We once had a arrangement with Mexico that worked well, but it was scrapped. That is when the illegal crossings began.

The 86 amnesty was supposed to be a one time correction, but they found that all the enforcement stuff was killed by the courts. Now it is in such confusion that even the local LEO's have washed their hands of it, due to legal entanglements and turf fights.

A totally new paradigm must be developed that controls what is currently uncontrollable and the courts must be considered this time, as well as our Constitution.

If you continue to beat this dead horse, then all you will get is a sore arm. What we have now cannot be made to suddenly work and deportation of the problem is not only problematic from a logistical standpoint, but unconstitutional.

42 posted on 12/03/2004 6:35:20 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Just another Joe
There will be vigilanteism, beatings, riots, and blood in the streets before it's all over.

I think you're right. There is already lots of resentment and rumbling in the invaded areas of Los Angeles County. The authorities try to keep it quiet, but it's happening.

44 posted on 12/03/2004 7:19:57 PM PST by janetgreen (CLOSE THE MEXICAN BORDER!!!)
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