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I Am A Settler
ISRAEL INSIDER ^ | DECEMBER 2, 2004 | ASHLEY PERRY

Posted on 12/02/2004 6:38:39 PM PST by CHARLITE

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1 posted on 12/02/2004 6:38:41 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Settlers are not the cause of violence by Islamofacists. Islamofacism is the cause. If settlers are the cause of the violence, then why are the Islamofacists beheading Buddhists in Thailand? The Islamofacists have something against Jews, Christians, and Buddhists?
2 posted on 12/02/2004 6:46:45 PM PST by Retief
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To: CHARLITE
Excellent piece. Thanks for posting it!

When I read the news nowadays I have to do a mental substitution to de-Orwellianize the language sometimes. Here are some examples, let me know if they are wrong:

"Settler" = person.

"Settlement" = city/town.

"Palestinian refugee" = person.

"Palestinian refugee camp" = city/town.

;-)

3 posted on 12/02/2004 6:49:59 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: CHARLITE

I'm sorry, but that article is crap. The guy victimizes himself way too much to be taken seriously.


4 posted on 12/02/2004 6:50:44 PM PST by edg2103 (Meh)
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To: Retief
The Islamofacists have something against Jews, Christians, and Buddhists?

Dar al Islam. "One world of Islam." Islam is like the Borg in Star Trek...it must seek to make the whole world Islam or die trying. It is a religion of conquest and domination revealed by a Machiavellian warrior. It must be destroyed or capitulated to.

The Crusades live...

5 posted on 12/02/2004 6:53:05 PM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: edg2103
I'm sorry, but that article is crap. The guy victimizes himself way too much to be taken seriously.

Your rebuttal, meanwhile, just screams out loud "take me seriously!"

Especially since you seem to have assumed that Ashley Perry is a guy?

6 posted on 12/02/2004 6:55:00 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: edg2103
The guy victimizes himself way too much to be taken seriously.

I could do without the tea-pouring and grocery comments myself, but the "elephant in the room" point is effective...the "Palestinian" problem is an anti-Semitic Media Production.

7 posted on 12/02/2004 6:56:01 PM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: CHARLITE

There are two sides to this issue. The Palestinians were there before the Jews moved to Israel in the early 1900s. This doesn't condone terrorism or fundamentalism, but the Palestinians need someplace to live, and the Jews and Palestinians are going to have to find a way to live together in near proximity.

This guy is playing victim, and I'm not overly sympathetic.


8 posted on 12/02/2004 6:56:13 PM PST by nj26
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To: CHARLITE

I'm skeptical.


9 posted on 12/02/2004 6:58:24 PM PST by cyborg ( Hy verkwik my siel; Hy lei my in die spore van geregtigheid, om sy Naam ontwil.)
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To: Retief

"Settlers are not the cause of violence by Islamofacists. Islamofacism is the cause."

Fundamentalist Islam is its own evil. But that doesn't solve the problem of where the Palestians are supposed to live.

One vote=one person in a democracy. If Israel is "united", Palestianians will soon be the majority.


10 posted on 12/02/2004 6:58:51 PM PST by nj26
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To: nj26
The Palestinians were there before the Jews moved to Israel in the early 1900s.

So were the Jews.

11 posted on 12/02/2004 6:58:57 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: nj26

So your willing to give back your home and property to the american indians. After all, they were here first.


12 posted on 12/02/2004 6:59:47 PM PST by hoosierboy
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To: nj26
This guy is playing victim, and I'm not overly sympathetic.

He IS a victim of a propaganda campaign. Brought to you by your friends in the MSM and fueled by anti-Semitism, or more precisely, Atheism.

13 posted on 12/02/2004 7:00:40 PM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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"So your willing to give back your home and property to the american indians. After all, they were here first."

No, Europeans and American Indians have learned to share this country.

But, this is the key point. If Israel and the occupied territories were united, and they held an election, the Palestinians would be soon be the MAJORITY. What would you do about that?

(We hold elections all the time, and American Indians get to vote.)


14 posted on 12/02/2004 7:01:44 PM PST by nj26
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To: RightWhale

"So were the Jews."

That's true, and they will have to learn to share the country.


15 posted on 12/02/2004 7:02:59 PM PST by nj26
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To: nj26
That's true, and they will have to learn to share the country.

So who's not sharing? Which side wants to kill the other side and drive them into the sea?

16 posted on 12/02/2004 7:04:28 PM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: nj26
No, Europeans and American Indians have learned to share this country.

Oh no, the Indians were smashed to bits and forced to life in refugee camps called "reservations".

The key point is that before the Jews took Jerusalem in a war with Jordan there was no such thing as a Palistinian.

17 posted on 12/02/2004 7:04:52 PM PST by Nachum
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To: nj26

They will share. They always have.


18 posted on 12/02/2004 7:05:39 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: edg2103
"The guy victimizes himself way too much to be taken seriously."

You must have read a different article than the one posted here.

19 posted on 12/02/2004 7:06:11 PM PST by Radix (This Tag Line is completely self referential.)
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To: ez

"So who's not sharing? Which side wants to kill the other side and drive them into the sea?"

I'm not condoning any Palestinian terrorists. Islam seems to be a religion that fosters a lot of extremism and violence, to say the least.

But the Palestinians aren't going away, and they will soon be the majority. This author seems to be suggesting a "One Israel", in which Jews would be free to settle in the occupied territories. That is a valid view. But, then the Palestinians who live in those same territories should be able to vote in nationwide elections.

That issue is problematic for the "One Israel" view.


20 posted on 12/02/2004 7:08:16 PM PST by nj26
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