1 posted on
12/02/2004 11:37:33 AM PST by
blam
To: SunkenCiv
2 posted on
12/02/2004 11:38:06 AM PST by
blam
To: blam
The people of Mesoamerica are largely responsible for the golden corn we grow today, having domesticated tough teosinte grass thousands of years ago and bred it into modern maize. Yes, just one more societal improvement "stolen by evil Europeans and claimed as their own...blah, blah, blah"
3 posted on
12/02/2004 11:49:51 AM PST by
pabianice
To: blam
4 posted on
12/02/2004 11:51:42 AM PST by
Revelation 911
(basted with a solution of not more than 5% bacon fat and sodium nitrite to retain juicyness)
To: blam
Willie Maize was one of my favorite baseball players.
6 posted on
12/02/2004 11:53:49 AM PST by
TommyDale
To: blam
Why did the Mesoamericans plump so strongly for one branching pattern rather than another?The secret is in the walls at Macchu Picchu:
7 posted on
12/02/2004 11:59:36 AM PST by
frithguild
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8 posted on
12/02/2004 12:01:11 PM PST by
SunkenCiv
("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
To: blam
Hmm. Here we have fireweed and diamond willow. Maybe we can get something like a silk apple tree by crossing them, something that would thrive in the harsh subarctic growing conditions and feed the moose even better than fireweed and diamond willow by themselves.
9 posted on
12/02/2004 12:06:40 PM PST by
RightWhale
(Destroy the dark; restore the light)
To: blam
Genetic Engineering is much faster....Mmmmm, yummy GMOs.....
10 posted on
12/02/2004 12:41:33 PM PST by
To Hell With Poverty
(Escapee from Massachusetts, where the 'Rats cling to their sinking ship!)
To: blam
Why did the Mesoamericans plump so strongly for one branching pattern rather than another? "... it probably had some impact on the architecture that was important to the Mesoamericans,"
11 posted on
12/02/2004 12:45:21 PM PST by
newgeezer
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13 posted on
12/02/2004 7:33:58 PM PST by
Chani
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To: blam
But in modern maize, only one variant exists, suggesting that the others must have been eliminated by rigorous selective breeding So, was it one of the genes that the Mesoamericans unknowingly selected for as they tamed teosinte (Zea mexicana)?
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14 posted on
12/02/2004 8:11:00 PM PST by
Don W
(You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat someone that can't help them.)
To: blam
The stalk on the left looks a bit like the Hope "Blue Corn"..
I have read somewhere that it has fairly ancient origins and was a staple throughout Mexico and the American Southwest..
15 posted on
12/02/2004 9:40:25 PM PST by
Drammach
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Early plant domestication in Mesoamerica
Athena Review Vol.2, no.1
Referring to these mysterious origins, Kent Flannery (1986) has called maize the "most controversial and most enigmatic of any major cultivated plant." All specimens of primitive maize known from archaeological sites are domesticated forms. Maize is not included in the taxa considered above under "wild-food production," nor does it appear on the list of the earliest cultigens. This is because it simply wasn't there. Identifying the wild progenitor(s?) of maize means reconstructing genetic events with little material corroboration, and so has been the subject of much speculation and debate for at least 100 years. Opinions are numerous, but currently the three leading hypotheses are: the Wild Maize Hypothesis, the Orthodox Teosinte Theory, and the Catastrophic Sexual Transmutation Theory (as shown in Benz and Iltis 1992).
I recall reading (probably 10 or 15 years ago) about the (figurative) shootout between the alleged dean of corn genetics ("Teosinte", from Wisconsin I think) and someone who was apparently at that time the lone advocate for the third model shown here.
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17 posted on
12/02/2004 10:13:51 PM PST by
SunkenCiv
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18 posted on
12/02/2004 10:16:29 PM PST by
farmfriend
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was it one of the genes that the Mesoamericans unknowingly selected for as they tamed teosinte But in modern maize, only one variant exists, suggesting that the others must have been eliminated by rigorous selective breeding.
Ok im getting a freaking migraine here trying to figure this out.Does anyone on this thread know exactly how in the hell you can unknowingly rigorously selectively breed a plant ?Am i missing something?
19 posted on
12/03/2004 2:54:35 AM PST by
freepatriot32
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