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"Gee, thanks."

You're welcome. It's nothing I haven't said to UMC Bishop Melvin Talbert or UMC Bishop Shamana, a woman who actively practices paganism as a UMC Bishop.

So far neither one has given me a substantial retort to my charges that the UMC is apostate & heretical. I made these charges due to the open acceptance of sin in the church and the substance of my charge of apostasy and the promulgation of sin is the substance of my charge of heresy: paganism, idolatry, homosexuality, adultery, atheism, and more are all accepted by the church and all are promoted by the church in various "ministries".

I've been told I'm 'mean spirited' and 'hard hearted' but so far neither Bishop has gone so far as to tell me I'm wrong. I've asked both of them to say I'm wrong and they won't commit to that. Isn't that something?

Because I'm not wrong and they know it.

So I left the UMC and am now a Wesleyan Methodist.

You're welcome.

I was being sarcastic. At the time it was the only response which your remark seemed to merit.

So I left the UMC and am now a Wesleyan Methodist.

I pray that you have found a place where you can, in good conscious, belong to a family of faith which provides you with access to the means of grace ... particularly those pertaining to the development of the fruit of the spirit.

I've been told I'm 'mean spirited' and 'hard hearted'...

Somehow, I'm not in the least bit surprised. It is certainly how you come across on this board. I hope you're not this way in person, or you risk a fat lip.

While I am certainly aware of some heretical and apostate UM clergy, bishops, and laity -- as I am aware of heretics in many other denominations -- I would never go so far as to arrogate to myself the power to judge an entire denomination of 10 million believers as apostate. Certain, specific, individuals ... yes. An ENTIRE denomination ... no. In my opinion, that is simply the height of spiritual arrogance.