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I've been posting on Mirant since this whole situation started. This case is almost unbelievable and will go down in the finance history books, I promise. A LOT of small investors, believing (as they were told by Mirant) that refinancing was going to be secured, invested what they had worked for all of their lives in this company. With the unexpected Chapter 11 filing, many of these small investors have worked through the shareholders' committee and have watched this grueling, stressful, hellatious case unfold for well over a year.

Some of us so believed in Mirant's ability to refinance debt maturities (the main problem as the company is PROFITABLE even at this time) persuaded relatives to also invest. Those relatives are also awaiting the outcome of this case. The common shareholders should NOT be wiped out in the case and we will have our day in court. This is not a case of wild speculators "hoping" value was there. This is a major electric utility with valuable assets tanked by the Enron mess. K-Mart investors were ripped off by slick operators, told the assets were "worthless" and suddenly saw the value of the company skyrocket AFTER their shares were cancelled. Don't believe the bankruptcy judge is going to let that happen in this case. I really don't. Some of you tire of my postings, I know it. But, everything I've ever worked for is tied up in this case and if nothing else, I'm going to see to it that the world knows what happened. This is truly a just cause and a lot of mom and pops should not be wiped out because some bondholder or bank wants to make an absolute killing on distressed assets...NOT this time.

1 posted on 12/01/2004 9:22:43 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: TopQuark

You're already on record with comments about this one. I am trying to document this case so that whomever wants to research it can go back and look at everything: the case, the comments, the clowns.


2 posted on 12/01/2004 9:23:44 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

FYI. You fellas need to help at least get this story out. Thought you might want to see this one, for sure.


3 posted on 12/01/2004 9:24:26 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Dog Gone

A story you will want to read. Let everyone know. It's time.


4 posted on 12/01/2004 9:25:00 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: snopercod

One you will want to read. The heat is on.


5 posted on 12/01/2004 9:25:31 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: FITZ

Pass this one to everyone you know. Please.


6 posted on 12/01/2004 9:26:45 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

You've pinged me many times. This one's for you.


7 posted on 12/01/2004 9:27:17 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Robert357
He said a group of shareholders independent of the official committee intends to force a full investigation of the value of Mirant's assets, by independently soliciting bids for them. The effort, he said, will show the court that Mirant has alternatives that would allow it to satisfy creditors and leave shareholder equity intact.

This sounds like a good move!

11 posted on 12/01/2004 9:42:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Ahh your supposed to buy from Kmart not buy them...If you have extra money why would you want a partner? You had more chance of a return playing the lottery , If someone offers you an investment, one things sure ; the one who offers investment opportunity has the most to gain.
13 posted on 12/01/2004 10:01:07 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: lafroste

Here it is. Read this.


19 posted on 12/02/2004 4:35:09 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
It's very difficult for shareholders not to get screwed in any bankruptcy. The fact that you appear to have formidable legal representation is encouraging, but whether you'll ever break even on the investment is certainly not a given.

There's too much going on behind the scenes for outsiders to really form an opinion.

21 posted on 12/02/2004 6:09:02 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This is a major electric utility with valuable assets tanked by the Enron mess.

Not to be picky or unsympathetic to your situation, but Mirant is not an electric utility. They are a merchant generator with no service territory who leveraged debt to buy up assets scattered across the country that Electric Utilities no longer wanted. The vast majority of their generating capacity is gas fired and with high natural gas prices, their costs have risen dramatically while demand has remained relatively flat.

24 posted on 12/02/2004 7:37:29 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

This Mirant story brings to light the underpinning reality that will ultimately destroy the American way of life. We as a nation will not survive when the linchpin of capital markets is destroyed. What am I talking about: The right of the people to decide their own fate.

When corporate managers and lawmakers allow financial institutions to dictate the upflow of investor dollars to the coffers of the elite few, they circumvent the orginal cornerstone of American financial truth: the people have control of their own investments.

That control has been handed to one man; a judge. He must rule and pass judgment on hundreds of thousands of people and their families who have lost everything in retirement plans and investments. He will be told by those who have a duty to those people that what they have invested has no value. He will be told by the financial institutions that those families have nothing. He will be told by everyone who stands to gain substantially that it is just business, nothing personal. The judge will hold his chin up, make comments to the effect that I must be impartial and simply look at the facts as presented by those who have no incentive to represent a fair assessment.

PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES: you are being fleeced without mercy. You are ignorant of what is transpiring in the underworld of high finance, large corporate bankruptcy, and investment banking. When you find out what has been done to you behind the scenes you will be disgusted. Will you do anything about it?

You live under the illusion that you are secure and that your nestegg is yours. I say no...you are grossly mistaken. The level of debt you as Americans have is unsustainable...and in your mind your retirement investments will be there to bail you out if you work long enough. The truth that is underreported and hidden by those who have power is that the greatest threat to you as a citizen is your reliance on financial institutions. They give you credit cards to hang yourself, and then take your dollars without recourse in bankruptcies such as Kmart and Mirant. Investigate who the players are, and what they stand to gain at the expense of the average citizen.

The intergration of the world economy makes the US particulary vulnerable to problems in other nations, such as war and energy supply. Your dollars, funneled to world financial institutions such as CitiCorp are weakening the American people's ability to secure themselves in the face of disasters like September 11. It is just a matter of time before you will be tested beyond what your means allow. To give your value over to banks in a Chapter 11 or any other government sanctioned theft because you do not act is tantamount to capitulation. You are marching to slaughter.

Every shareholder of a public company should be pounding the doors of our government in mass, to force them to change the laws that allow the simily-faced banks to rob you legally. If this change does not occur in the very near future, there will be absolutely no incentive to keep the company you own, otherwise healthy, from filing bankruptcy. On the contrary, every incentive exists for company management to file: they get huge "golden parachutes", the banks get the company, the cronies of the judge gets paid, the investment bankers get paid huge fees, all off the backs of individual investors who were quashed without mercy.


31 posted on 02/04/2005 11:33:57 AM PST by TIME2PAY (EVERY AMERICAN or investor in US stock market SHOULD READ THIS)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
FWIW, I forwarded this thread to Neil Cavuto at Fox News.
I hope this helps.

Best of luck to y'all.

/jasper

39 posted on 02/09/2005 9:12:05 PM PST by Jasper ("Power flows from the barrel of a 10mm.")
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