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Two lawmakers want to split state's electoral votes by House district
AP ^ | 12/1/4

Posted on 12/01/2004 6:14:40 PM PST by SmithL

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To: SmithL

This would guarantee a Republican President for the foreseeable future. I rate the chances of it becoming law at something like one in a jillion. Well, maybe it's not that bad. Maybe it's two in a jillion.


21 posted on 12/01/2004 6:34:59 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Perdogg

I would have figured an even split: Kerry gets 2 for winning the state overall, plus 3 (McCollum, Sabo, Oberstar) for Congressional districts. Did Bush win the Iron Range district this time?


22 posted on 12/01/2004 6:35:29 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: digger48

"Sure, if we could have all those CA red districts, I'd give 'em the 1 blue of 8 here in IN."



Actually, Indiana had 2 Kerry districts (Visclosky's and Carson's) and 7 Bush districts.


23 posted on 12/01/2004 6:36:12 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Bernard

It's a good idea because it will never actually happen. What it will serve to do is highlight the hypocrisy of liberals who want the same thing done in conservative states in order to gain electoral votes, but will fight like hell to keep it from happening in CA.


24 posted on 12/01/2004 6:36:45 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: HostileTerritory; Perdogg

"I would have figured an even split: Kerry gets 2 for winning the state overall, plus 3 (McCollum, Sabo, Oberstar) for Congressional districts. Did Bush win the Iron Range district this time? "



You are correct. Kerry carried the 8th CD (Oberstar's Iron Range district) 53% to 46%.

Bush also carried 5 of MN's 8 CDs in 2000.


25 posted on 12/01/2004 6:38:11 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: SmithL

actually, electoral votes should be assigned by counties imho.That would be a true federalist system and return the power of representation to the most responsive electorate.The country has strayed far from a system where state legislatures elected senators. What do you think???????????


26 posted on 12/01/2004 6:38:37 PM PST by Whitehawk
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I always forget NW IN.

Hill isn't giving up easy, either.


27 posted on 12/01/2004 6:40:39 PM PST by digger48
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Done nationwide, this hurts Democrats so much more than it could hurt a Republican.

Which Bush state would have had the most votes thrown to Kerry? I'd guess Texas for sheer numbers, more than Florida, but it would be more interesting to figure it as a percentage. I could see Kerry having won 3/5 districts in Iowa, 2/3 in New Mexico, but after that it's a biiiiiig drop. Georgia would give Kerry 4/13 districts; North Carolina probably the same.


28 posted on 12/01/2004 6:41:00 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Bernard

>the older I get, the more respect I have for the folks who put together the constitution of the United States and our form of government. Checks and balances are a good thing, and that applies to the electoral college.<

AMEN.


29 posted on 12/01/2004 6:41:23 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: SmithL
The libs loved the idea when it was Colorado trying it. Of course that is because it would help have helped Kerry.

But now that such a move in California would make the chances of a RAT winning the White House even slimmer I will safely bet that the RATS are now opposed to it.

Situational Ethics.

30 posted on 12/01/2004 6:41:50 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Perdogg
Read Article II of the US Constitution : The State shall determine how electors are chosen. Frankly, the legislator, if wanted too, could deny the public the right to vote in a Presidential election.

Two points: 1. Read Article I. 2. Consider the revolution if a state tried to deny the people the right to vote on Electors.

31 posted on 12/01/2004 6:41:52 PM PST by jackbill
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To: digger48

"Hill isn't giving up easy, either."



Is he suing? I thought that the one county that had voting problems was one of those that was stripped from the 8th CD in 2002 redistricting.


32 posted on 12/01/2004 6:42:22 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Whitehawk

I think the Supreme Court wisely junked that system in the 1960s.

I prefer the way that some of those 4,000-person counties in Nebraska vote compared to my 1.4 million-person county in Massachusetts, but I can't seriously argue that they should have equal voting rights. There's also nothing to stop states from subdividing counties like mad to prop up their totals.


33 posted on 12/01/2004 6:42:29 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: AuH2ORepublican

In Minnesota, Kerry won the 5th and the 8th CD. Bush won the 1st,2nd,3th,4th,6th,and 7th CD.


34 posted on 12/01/2004 6:43:30 PM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
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To: Perdogg
If we went the Nebraska system, we would have gone 10-7 Bush.

Bush would have won Districts 1(Democrat held), 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, probably 9, 10, and Probably 11.

He'd lose 2 statwide because of the steal in Detroit.

He's only lose districts 5(Flint, Saginaw, Bay City), 12(SE Oakland/South Macomb), 13/14(Detroit and Downriver), and 15 (Ann Arbor, Monroe, Downriver).

35 posted on 12/01/2004 6:43:37 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("now we got this guy in the Oval office who don't take no sh*t from no gimpy little countries!")
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To: SmithL
We have survived as long as we have because we are not a direct democracy.

Leave things along. There is great wisdom in our democratic republic system.

36 posted on 12/01/2004 6:43:48 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Perdogg

Wish the Dims in WA would do it here, but they won't. Pres Bush won about 28 of the 39 counties.


37 posted on 12/01/2004 6:44:34 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: SmithL

Bad idea. I like the electorial college as it is. I would rather see the state of Califorina split in two. One state could be called SanFraLASac and the other could be called Red Califorina. Then one day my family and I might be able to live in California without being in legal trouble as soon as we got there.


38 posted on 12/01/2004 6:45:50 PM PST by Modok (`)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Actually Sodrel claiming fraud in one county. At the rate they're going, Hill to gain about 60 votes in a 1400 vote spread.

Monroe County a problem child. Bloomington? IU? Ripe for funny business.


39 posted on 12/01/2004 6:46:06 PM PST by digger48
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To: Perdogg

Weren't the first few Presidential elections by state legislatures? Neil Boortz has stated that there is no right to vote in the constitution, only a right to representation. I as many others need to brush up on this


40 posted on 12/01/2004 6:46:33 PM PST by Figment (Ich bin ein Jesuslander)
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