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sometimes these letters are deleted by the moderators here - but I think it is important to not ignore the ranting of the loose cannons on the left - and to take the time to answer their uninformed points-of-view

Not a single Iraqi was involved in attacking us on Sept. 11, 2001, or in any previous attack of our troops or citizens overseas ....

I think firing serface to air missles at our pilots who were charged with enforcing the "No Fly Zones" since the end of the first Gulf War is considered an attack on our troops --- and I think that any Americans who were killed by those "Palestinian Homicide Bombers" - (who were funded by Iraq by-the-way) constitutes an attack on our citizens.

I wonder if this Tiawanese Prof. would want the Good Ol' USA to come to his homeland's defense if his little island was invaded by China? ---- probably not

1 posted on 12/01/2004 12:29:58 PM PST by rface
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To: rface
100% of the guys who attacked us on 9/11 were Arabs. Iraqis are Arabs.

It's all the same country anyway, particularly to Moslems who pine for resurrection of the Islamic Caliphate.

2 posted on 12/01/2004 12:32:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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No Afghanis were involved in 9/11 either. Does the good doctor believe that we shouldn't have gone to Afghanistan?


3 posted on 12/01/2004 12:33:35 PM PST by lady lawyer
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Any nation that starts a war, regardless of justifications or excuses, is the aggressor and cannot be condoned

Well, I guess the British were wrong to shut down the international slave trade. And America should have never fought for its independence. And we won't even talk about the generally accepted view that France and Britain should have attacked Germany in 1938 over the Czechs...

These historically ignorant leftists are just amazing.
4 posted on 12/01/2004 12:34:23 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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"Any nation that starts a war, regardless of justifications or excuses, is the aggressor and cannot be condoned;"

This line says everything you need to know about this guy!

Even a 'justified war' cannot be condoned!

Sorta like someone attempting to cut up your family with a chainsaw and you put a 45 between his eyes!

Not justified according to this lame-0!


5 posted on 12/01/2004 12:34:37 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: rface
I wonder if this Tiawanese Prof. would want the Good Ol' USA to come to his homeland's defense if his little island was invaded by China? ---- probably not

If Taiwan develops, or China thinks they're developing, WMD does that give China the green light to invade and remove the potential threat before it becomes imminent?

6 posted on 12/01/2004 12:34:56 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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Oh, and additionally, The war in Iraq is totally different. Not a single Iraqi was involved in attacking us on Sept. 11, 2001, or in any previous attack of our troops or citizens overseas.

I've noticed in arguing with leftists, that none of them remember Saddam tried to assassinate Bush 41 after the Gulf War. We should have removed Saddam then, but unfortunately, Clinton was President, and he didn't care...
7 posted on 12/01/2004 12:36:47 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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Not a single Iraqi was involved in attacking us on Sept. 11, 2001, or in any previous attack of our troops or citizens overseas.

In addition to shooting at our pilots almost daily, they openly funded international terrorism that killed Americans and citizens of our allies, and they attempted to assassinate a former US President.

Dr. Henry Liu is an ill-informed, though strongly opinionated idiot. That is always an unwelcome combination.

9 posted on 12/01/2004 12:37:55 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Not a single Iraqi was involved in attacking us on Sept. 11, 2001

That's right, but it isn't the point. The bluster of Saddam toward his neighbors such as Kuwait, Iran, and Israel went on for years. Talk of Rain of Fire and who owns the 19th province and Basra is bellicose even for an attorney such as Saddam. We stepped in for not entirely altruistic reasons, since Saddam's moves would eventually start costing us big. Congress should have declared war rather than just approved funding, but they didn't have to declare war since the ennabling docs already existed.

10 posted on 12/01/2004 12:40:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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The war in Iraq is totally different. Not a single Iraqi was involved in attacking us on Sept. 11, 2001, or in any previous attack of our troops or citizens overseas.

I'm guessing Dr. Dumbass here, doesn't actually count shooting at US Pilots on a regular basis an "attack of our troops"

14 posted on 12/01/2004 12:51:44 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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Any nation that starts a war, regardless of justifications or excuses, is the aggressor and cannot be condoned; otherwise, the world would be in perpetual turmoil and misery.

So Israel was the aggressor and guilty party in the 1967 Six-Day War? Nonsense. Yet another simplistic, idiotic opinion from a pseudo-intellectual.

18 posted on 12/01/2004 1:14:08 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
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The war in Iraq is totally different. Not a single Iraqi was involved in attacking us on Sept. 11, 2001, or in any previous attack of our troops or citizens overseas.

You mean they weren't shooting at our planes?

They were ya' know?

19 posted on 12/01/2004 1:49:56 PM PST by Bullish
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Yopu guys have ALL missed the point. We got involved in Iraq because Saddam Hussein would not follow the U.N rulings on weapons searches (I don't recall the resolution #s, sorry. There were a few of them.) The legality of using force to make Saddam comply was *Legal*. What never made any sense was, why the Russians, French, and Germans who supported the resolutions would not support *enforcing* them. Then the 'Oil for Food' scandal broke and everything started making sense again...

What the "good Doctor" fails to understand is the basic facts surrounding the war.


20 posted on 12/01/2004 1:56:45 PM PST by Triggerhippie
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Did we re-elect President Bush because we believe he was right in starting the Iraq war? Maybe we re-elected him because the person who got our nation into such a mess owes it to us to get us out and to restore the nation’s honor and reputation.

This is pathetic.
The left is getting more and more convoluted in their logic.
They'll say anything to deny of the fact that Bush was re-elected because more people SUPPORT him.

21 posted on 12/01/2004 1:59:44 PM PST by Jorge
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As far as I remember, NO German attacked Pearl Harbor. Why did Americans go to war against Hitler, then?


22 posted on 12/01/2004 2:01:31 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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Oh, please. We had already been in theater for 10 years as a result of the unprovoked invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. That's one of the things Osama bin Laden was upset about, and he said so in his 1998 fatwa. In that sense there was a direct link between 9/11 and Iraq.

This war proceeded from that one as a result of systematic violations of the terms of settlement on the part of Saddam Hussein. Bush didn't just wake up one morning and say "hey, let's invade Iraq."

I suspect the good Professor's field isn't history.

23 posted on 12/01/2004 2:03:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Dr. Lui,

Iraq instigated war in 1991 by invading Kuwait. The U. S. came to the defense of Kuwait, and the result was that Iraq agreed to ceasefire conditions. Iraq was in violation of the ceasefire terms from 1991 to 2004, when after 17 U. N. Resolutions attempting to remind Iraq of the ceasefire agreements failed, the U.S. in coalition with many other nations, attacked Iraq and won the war, liberating the people of Iraq from a manaical dictactor.

You seem to have overlooked al of these easily discovered facts, sir.

26 posted on 12/01/2004 2:11:28 PM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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I guess in this guy's brain the WWII Pacific war is America's fault. Pearl Harbour wouldn't have happend if the US hadn't placed a Steel blockade on Japan. Sheesh.


29 posted on 12/01/2004 2:18:06 PM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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