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GOP Discusses National Sales Tax
FOX ^ | Dec 1, 2004

Posted on 12/01/2004 8:25:22 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: hsrazorback1

Sounds like there would be many difficult parts to this idea. I don't mean to sound negative. If the bugs are worked out, I would go for this. It sounds like it would complicate things in the short term, and simplify them in the long term.


201 posted on 12/01/2004 12:03:15 PM PST by Jay777
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To: Steve_Seattle

You are assuming the price of the car would stay the same. Every component bought by the manufacturer while making the car has taxes added to it. This is added into the price of the vehicle. Under fair tax these taxes would go away and would only come into play when the car is sold. Thus, the price of the car would drop. (if what I have read is correct.)


202 posted on 12/01/2004 12:05:10 PM PST by FlaAvalanche
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To: Jay777
It is a great system. The problem is that most people do not understand taxes. Thanks to public government school system. Government is more powerful because most people are economically illiterate. This is why our tax code is set up this way.

Its a great simple way to do taxes, and once you understand it then you will see why I am so for it.
203 posted on 12/01/2004 12:05:54 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: FlaAvalanche
Yeah, but how much would the embedded taxes in the production of those shoes go down. The shoes( minus the embedded tax) would go down in price, add the sales tax and wham!!! same price.
Of course, the only way the price can fall is if wages go down by the amount of taxes people were paying previously. So you are no better off as far as prices go.
204 posted on 12/01/2004 12:06:55 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: from occupied ga

last time I checked we were the United States of America, and not England.


205 posted on 12/01/2004 12:07:52 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

bumpidy dipity doo


206 posted on 12/01/2004 12:09:20 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Sprite518
Who knows how much of that percent is pork?

Surely you are not naive enough to believe that Congress would dream of doing away with it's pork?

207 posted on 12/01/2004 12:10:19 PM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: Sprite518
Source your proof?
http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/faq-main.html#47

Maybe you should stop promoting this plan until you know more about it.
208 posted on 12/01/2004 12:10:35 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: ApesForEvolution

You still have to go through the Amendment process, which is lenghty and has not been tried in awhile. You cannot just "do away" with a Constitutional Amendment.


209 posted on 12/01/2004 12:11:20 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: FlaAvalanche
Thus, the price of the car would drop. (if what I have read is correct.)

Or the profits that the manufacturer makes on the car just takes a big jump.

210 posted on 12/01/2004 12:11:48 PM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: Your Nightmare
What makes you think corporatation pass their taxes on to consumers through higher prices? Most economists don't believe this.

You aren't serious are you?

211 posted on 12/01/2004 12:14:23 PM PST by Durus
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To: Sprite518
Prove the lie!

You're being lied to but not by me...

If they can't be honest and up-front about the rate, you might want to find out what else they're lying about or what other facts they're keeping from you.

212 posted on 12/01/2004 12:18:21 PM PST by lewislynn (The meaning of life can be described in one word...Grandchildren)
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To: Drennan Whyte

It's a fairly simple market mechanism. If a car company A and car company B suddenly has their operating costs dramatically reduced and Company A fails to lower the cost of their car then car company B will in fact lower prices to sell more cars. The free market will take care of itself.


213 posted on 12/01/2004 12:20:26 PM PST by Durus
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To: Durus
If a car company A and car company B suddenly has their operating costs dramatically reduced and Company A fails to lower the cost of their car then car company B will in fact lower prices to sell more cars.

Assuming that costs are dramatically reduced, that Company B drops its price, that Company A's cars are a perfect substitute for Company B's cars, and on and on and on.

214 posted on 12/01/2004 12:23:51 PM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: Durus
You aren't serious are you?
Completely
215 posted on 12/01/2004 12:28:31 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare
LOL! You do not understand this chart. Let me just sum it up as the following. All they are saying is that you have more buying power, and the you choose when to be taxed.

I guess they are assuming a 6% local sales tax based on the average of all 50 states. 23% is the federal rate, and not 30%. Yes they could have answered it better. Nonetheless, if the Feds change their tax code, then you can rest assure most states will follow suit in order to remain competitive. However, I am sure that states like the Republic of Taxachusetts will not do the same.o
216 posted on 12/01/2004 12:31:13 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Drennan Whyte
If a car company A and car company B suddenly has their operating costs dramatically reduced and Company A fails to lower the cost of their car then car company B will in fact lower prices to sell more cars.
Assuming that costs are dramatically reduced, that Company B drops its price, that Company A's cars are a perfect substitute for Company B's cars, and on and on and on.
And assume company A and company B have their operating costs dramatically reduced. Corporate income tax is not an operating cost.
217 posted on 12/01/2004 12:31:47 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Sprite518
LOL! You do not understand this chart. Let me just sum it up as the following. All they are saying is that you have more buying power, and the you choose when to be taxed. I guess they are assuming a 6% local sales tax based on the average of all 50 states. 23% is the federal rate, and not 30%. Yes they could have answered it better. Nonetheless, if the Feds change their tax code, then you can rest assure most states will follow suit in order to remain competitive. However, I am sure that states like the Republic of Taxachusetts will not do the same.o
You are showing your ignorance. You really should stop posting until you understand this plan more.

Seriously.
218 posted on 12/01/2004 12:33:41 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Drennan Whyte

Certainly not.


219 posted on 12/01/2004 12:34:58 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: lewislynn; Sprite518

You're being lied to but not by me...

With an income tax at 23%, for each $100,000 income earned $23,000 is income tax. Earn $100,000 then send $23,000 to the government. With the NRST at 23%, for each $100,000 spent on new retail items $23,000 is the national retail sales tax. Spend $100,000 and $23,000 of that is sent to the federal government.

220 posted on 12/01/2004 12:35:24 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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