To: ckilmer
The coming of Jesus marks the end of bible and also the end of a specifically Jewish Story.
Oh really? Can you provide authoritative proof of that? Can you dispute 'Jesus' own words:
Matthew 5:17-18: Do not think that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the Torah till all is fulfilled.
Refresh my memory. When did the heavens and earth pass away - and how did I miss that one? Your dispensational theology must make the word 'fulfilled' equal to 'done away with' - which is clearly the OPPOSITE of what Y'shua ['Jesus' to you]. Let me just leave you with the warning of the Almighty:
Jer 31:35-37: Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for a light by day, the ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, and its waves roar (The LORD of hosts is His Name): 'If those ordinances depart from before Me,' says the LORD, 'Then the seed of Israel shall also cease from being a nation before Me forever.' Thus says the LORD: 'If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, says the Lord.'"
Eh, how long is forever?
Romans 11:18: do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.
102 posted on
12/04/2004 1:52:59 PM PST by
safisoft
(Give me Torah!)
To: safisoft
true. God is not done with me or you or men in general or Israel in particular. I meant something rather narrower. Sacred text ends with the new testatment--at the point where it is no longer a specifically jewish story. There have been some great jewish and christian writings over the last 2000 years since John completed Revelations. But none have been considered to be Sacred Text. That's all I meant.
Romans 11
13I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I make much of my ministry 14in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
108 posted on
12/04/2004 2:43:44 PM PST by
ckilmer
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