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To: Dead Corpse; Old Phone Man
And when insurance refuses to pay the injuries bill, and if you can't afford it, guess who pays for it.

The government

and I think that If the government has got to pay for medical bills incurred because you didn't wear a seat belt , they ought to have the right to tell you to wear one
16 posted on 11/30/2004 5:50:38 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
"I think that If the government has got to pay for medical bills incurred because you didn't wear a seat belt , they ought to have the right to tell you to wear one"

Why not just rename the US- Mommy.gov and be done with it. To hell with Freedom. All we need is Mommy.gov.

19 posted on 11/30/2004 5:58:01 PM PST by spunkets
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Ah... so socialism is why we need more Nanny State control over our lives.

Thanks for playing...

26 posted on 11/30/2004 6:03:34 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
"If the government has got to pay for medical bills incurred because you didn't wear a seat belt , they ought to have the right to tell you to wear one"

Just because the people make a stupid political decision, such as to pay "medical bills" for the citizens, does not mean that the citizens give up their constitutionally protected rights.

The closest covenant I could find in the Wisconsin State Constitution that could be used to declare the state seat belt law unconstitutional is:

Equality; inherent rights.

SECTION 1. [As amended Nov. 1982 and April 1986]

All people are born equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights; among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; to secure these rights, governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. [1979 J.R. 36, 1981 J.R. 29, vote Nov. 1982; 1983 J.R. 40, 1985 J.R. 21, vote April 1986]

The "inherent right...liberty" would imply each person shall decide whether to wear a seat belt or not.

The constitutional basis for stopping the federales at their blackmail maneuver is Amendment IX:

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights SHALL NOT be construed to DENY OR DISPARAGE others (rights) retained by the people.

The people have the retained right to decide to wear a seat belt or not.

29 posted on 11/30/2004 6:08:39 PM PST by tahiti
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To: LauraleeBraswell
"And when insurance refuses to pay the injuries bill, and if you can't afford it, guess who pays for it."

The government"

"and I think that If the government has got to pay for medical bills incurred because you didn't wear a seat belt , they ought to have the right to tell you to wear one"

You are profoundly wrong, but I don't have the time or patience to explain why. I have to get to bed; gotta work in the morning. The fact that you are here on FR is a positive sign. Seatbelt laws, and the way they were enacted, with the false premise that they would be subserviant to other moving violations, are un-American.

The government should NOT be able to dictate to ME what I should morally do within the confines of my property. That includes my car, and that concludes my evening rant.

Seatbelt laws are as un-American as political correctness.

60 posted on 11/30/2004 8:29:56 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

They have to pay Medicare and Medicaid too, do they have the right to tell you what you must eat or not eat?


74 posted on 12/01/2004 10:30:22 AM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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