[RepublicanReptile]

NC PING!

[cynicom]

VA gets the loot from having Navy personell stationed there. NC gets the shaft for having open space. The name of the game is politics.

[F.J. Mitchell]

I'm with the military and it's needs on this, and seriously doubt that any hanky panky was involved.

Look up iminent domain, in your dictonary, Claudia.

[Dalite]

"I believe that the prospect of a decisive, concerted and active effort to deprive citizens of their due process protection of property rights by the federal government would draw serious concern from anyone who holds the Constitution as the foundation, structure and security of our society of united states."

Unfortunately, HR-1491, passed March 9th, 1933 put the land ownership of all US Citizens up as collateral on the national debt.

This was done in conjunction with the beginning of the gold confiscation, which was used to pay off foreign debt.

Eminent Domain has a massive propensity for insidious morphulation (It Sucks), but unfortunately, it is the law of the land.

Actually, it is closer to Admiralty Law, as that same piece of legislation gave the President the power to declare a State of Emergency and bypass Congress (and the Constitution) by issuing Executive Orders.

This basically reroutes law from the Law of the Land (Constitutional Law as derived from the Magna Carta, through Blackstone's, now referred to as Blacks) to Admiralty Law, which is another name for Martial Law; sometimes referred to as Military Tribunal.

Unfortunately, we have spent every second of time since March 9th, 1933 under a state of Emergency.

Now, I will try on my flameproof suit, and hope I didn't eat too much Turkey to still fit in it.

I think this post will bring the nonbelievers out of the woodwork. Those who are already aware of this will sit back and smile, but it won't be a smile of happiness or satisfaction; just one of acknowledgment.

[snopercod]

A very confused letter, I think. For example, tt was the 5th Amendment, not the 14th, that guarantees just compensation for property taken by the government.

[Prospero]

As someone who lives under the projected flight path, and whose neighbors' and family's land was being gobbled up in this manner, I asked a Congressman the following simple question.

What do I tell these people? They are as patriotic a people as one would ever meet, willing to sacrifice their way of life for the greater good of their country, for the most part, but they wanted to know why?

As it turns out, in this latest brief, five phonebook sized environmental impact statement was a tissue of lies, reverse engineered to fit a desired outcome.

And, low and behold, John Warner was not as high a suspect as I had once thought. The all-powerful Armed Service Committee Chairman, it turns out, did not want the F22 squadrons split up, even the pilots were concerned about the BASH bird dangers.

It appears some highly respected Republican congress critters wanted the squadrons split, and Warner relented because he wanted to export some noise from Oceana.

If was not a NOT IN MY BACK YARD (NIMBY) kind of thing after all, but a desperate attempt to build an unnecessary and unwanted and inconvenient OLF in an area to make North Carolina's military bases possible consolidations and closings less cost effective.

The military didn't need the federal laws cited here, but had the 1907 North Carolina law giving the military Carte Blanche.

This is not a Military issue, this is bureaucratic fraud and waste. This has changed it from a questionable, certainly unfortunate encroachment issue to one of lies and perhaps perjury.

I, like most of those content to accept the military’s good faith need for a practice field, especially in time of war, who are directly effected by this project, have to think differently about this whole situation now.

It’s not about birds, it’s not about farmers, it’s about waste, fraud, abuse and lies --- defects in the process that the military needs even less of, especially in time of war, than whining treehuggers.