[RAY]

How about the US troops being secure in occupation as they were in Japan and Germany? Time for Iraq to vote for their leaders and us to come home.

Our troops in Germany and Japan were not secure for several years after the war. "Insurgents" in Germany were active during the early post war years -- we captured and killed many insurgent Germans after the war.

In this Iraq case, the war is not really over and in this type war they will remain active for much longer. The Iraq security is secondary to ours; but, that demands we stay for a much longer period -- leaving early will be a great if not fatal National move -- sadly, it will cost more American lives, but necessary for the long term.

[ex-snook]

"Our troops in Germany and Japan were not secure for several years after the war. "Insurgents" in Germany were active during the early post war years -- we captured and killed many insurgent Germans after the war. "

Sure would like to see that sourced. I spent a year right after the war in Europe occupation and neither saw or heard any of that.

[whiskeytango]

It is patently untrue that any sort of insurgency followed WWII, in fact an order given by MacAurther was that no soldier was to leave the troop ship with a loaded weapon. As far as Germany, the Allies feared what was termed a "National Redoubt" of SS units in the Bavarian Alps who would continue the fight, but it was unfounded. As a matter of record Odessa was more concerned with helping former Nazi's flee the country than trying to regain control of the country. There were over 1 million allied troops in Germany at wars end and MI6 under the directions of Churchill had formed hunter killers teams to summarily execute lesser war criminals overlooked by the tribunal court.