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Charges sought against Rumsfeld
news24dotcom ^ | 30/11/2004 | unknown

Posted on 11/30/2004 9:04:54 AM PST by OSHA

Berlin - An international legal team filed a criminal complaint in Germany on Tuesday against US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other top US officials over the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in Iraq.

The New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and Berlin's Republican Lawyers' Association said they and five Iraqi citizens mistreated by US soldiers were seeking a probe by German federal prosecutors of leading US policymakers.

They said they had chosen Germany because of its Code of Crimes Against International Law, introduced in 2002, which grants German courts universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes or crimes against humanity.

Civilian leaders liable

It also makes military or civilian commanders who fail to prevent their subordinates from committing such acts liable.

"We filed these cases here because there is simply no other place to go," CCR vice president Peter Weiss said in a statement.

"It is clear that the US government is not willing to open an investigation into these allegations against these officials," he said, adding that the US Congress had "failed" to seriously investigate the abuses.

The Center for Constitutional Rights noted that while several US soldiers were facing courts martial for the abuse and sexual humiliation of prisoners at the US-run Abu Ghraib detention center in Iraq, their superiors looked set to escape discipline.

The complaint names Rumsfeld, former CIA director George Tenet, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Steven Cambone, Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, Brigadier General Janis L. Karpinski and other military officers who served in Iraq.

Donald Rumsfeld on down

"From Donald Rumsfeld on down, the political and military leaders in charge of Iraq policy must be investigated and held accountable," CCR president Michael Ratner said in a statement.

The CCR said that the five Iraqis it was representing had been victims of mistreatment including electric shock, severe beatings, sleep and food deprivation and sexual abuse.

It noted that Sanchez and other officers involved in the case were based in Germany.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; War on Terror
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To: OSHA

es macht nicht


21 posted on 11/30/2004 9:26:36 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
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To: OSHA
Berlin - An international legal team filed a criminal complaint in Germany on Tuesday against US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other top US officials over the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in Iraq.

So, how many divisions do they command?

22 posted on 11/30/2004 9:28:41 AM PST by Mark17
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To: OSHA

Michael Ratner (brother to the charming and scintillating Ellen) is president of CCR and in the two other articles I've read on this subject today, it is he who is quoted on this filing. Read some of his background here:

http://www.humanrightsnow.org/columbia_law_school.htm


23 posted on 11/30/2004 9:29:02 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Publius6961
We aut to start a "court" so we can hand down decrees like the Germans!
This is a FARCE.
I defecate in their general direction!
24 posted on 11/30/2004 9:29:28 AM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: GmbyMan

See my link down thread. Michael Ratner has been involved in stirring the pot over the years and has caused much mischief as a result.


25 posted on 11/30/2004 9:30:30 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Indeed it is.

I linked one background piece on him down a bit. But here is another. Just look at the issues he's been involved in:

http://www.cageprisoners.com/articles.php?aid=2356


26 posted on 11/30/2004 9:32:43 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: ImpBill
"They said they had chosen Germany because of its Code of Crimes Against International Law, introduced in 2002, which grants German courts universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes or crimes against humanity."

Germany granted itself "universal jurisdiction"?
As did Belgium?

Do they have the divisions to back up any decision?

The world should accept the moral and legal authority of the biggest butchers of the 20th Century?

What's up with that?

27 posted on 11/30/2004 9:43:10 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: visualops
There is an unwritten law where when you talk about the "ABUSE", you must mention the panties on the head thingy.

A lot of men would pay good money to be TORTURED that way...lol

28 posted on 11/30/2004 9:45:35 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: OSHA
An international legal team filed a criminal complaint in Germany on Tuesday against US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other top US officials over the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in Iraq.

I hereby charge and find those individuals guilty of mass stupidity and sentence them to life in the sewers of baghdad. No food or water to be provided, all sustenance is to gather from the sewers. Anyone found assisting these individuals will receive the same sentence. Sentence to be impossed immeidately with no appeal.

29 posted on 11/30/2004 9:52:48 AM PST by Trepz
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To: pbrown

Pull ALL the troops out of Germany, and move up the schedule, "F" em


30 posted on 11/30/2004 9:53:58 AM PST by DAC21
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To: DAC21

Agreed..."F" 'em all.


31 posted on 11/30/2004 9:57:12 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: OSHA
CCR president Michael RATner

You just can't make these names up. They need to all receive the newest holiday greeting from FTD, the official Vice President Dick Cheney "G.F.Y." Greeting Card, "the card that delivers an unmistakable and the most appropriate message to the people who need it the most."
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That Dick Cheney, ya just gotta love him!
32 posted on 11/30/2004 9:59:44 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: OSHA

but they apparently had no problem with the mass murder and butchery of one Osama bin Laden...


33 posted on 11/30/2004 10:03:43 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: dirtboy
I wonder if these nimrods ever files a suit against Saddam when he murdered his own people.

Surely you jest. The Center for Constitutional Rights is a Saddam fan club, just like the Lawyers Guild, the International Action Center, and International ANSWER.

34 posted on 11/30/2004 10:07:38 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Mad Mammoth

That's the answer! LOL


35 posted on 11/30/2004 10:16:15 AM PST by OSHA (Tip O' the Day. Straighten a warped sense of humor by clamping it between two uptight liberals.)
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To: OSHA
"Berlin - An international legal team filed a criminal complaint in Germany on Tuesday against US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other top US officials over the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in Iraq."

Exactly why we haven't joined the ICC.

Amazing how the Euros and some neo-comms (neo-communists) in America still are so amazed that we haven't signed up.

36 posted on 11/30/2004 10:30:29 AM PST by chronotrigger
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To: Armedanddangerous
Wonder if we can boycott BMW and mercedes if this happens?

Wonder if we can nuke Germany?

37 posted on 11/30/2004 10:34:25 AM PST by chronotrigger (German, Nazi- same difference)
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To: pbrown
And that's not even getting into the whole "panty raid" phenomenon.

Which makes me think of Anthony Michael Hall selling panty views lol


38 posted on 11/30/2004 10:34:27 AM PST by visualops (Freedom is worth fighting for, dying for and standing for: the advance of freedom leads to peace-GWB)
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To: DAC21
Pull ALL the troops out of Germany, and move up the schedule, "F" em

I second that.

39 posted on 11/30/2004 10:38:23 AM PST by chronotrigger (German, Nazi- same difference)
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To: chronotrigger

Who would miss it?


40 posted on 11/30/2004 10:47:28 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (I'm not sorry)
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