(Which one am I? Sometimes one, sometimes the other....;^)
Posted on 11/29/2004 3:53:25 PM PST by marshmallow
You need a spanking. ;~D
Now the Chalice theory is to be distinguished from the author's objective.
This lady is correct--there must have been a stone goblet used at the Last Supper so if you found it, it would be another artifact confirming the Scriptural account.
But, Graham Hancock's analysis (in "The Sign and the Seal") is that the author's use of the Grail as well as subsequent Grail stories are developed from a knowledge in the region that the Knights Templer had located the Ark of the Covenant; the literature is intended to leave a description of the the location of the Ark in Ethopia.
(Which one am I? Sometimes one, sometimes the other....;^)
Well it is "factual" that there was a cup of some sort. Do people still doubt that Jesus even existed, let alone who He said He was?
Just a tad presumptuous in believing to speak for all Christians of all time and every place is it not?.
Of course, worshipping relics WOULD be pagan, indeed, it would be idolotrous. However, showing proper respect for those things deemed sacred is biblical and can bring us closer to God by bringing us closer to the Reality of the Incarnation.
For example, Moses brought Joseph's bones with him out of Egypt.
Those are coconuts.
Uh, Jesus?
That's the Ark of the Covenant the Ethiopians used to beat the Italian army in nineteen ought something.
Oh, yes.
"For Christians, the Holy Grail is and always has been the cup used by Jesus to consecrate the wine at the Last Supper, the very receptacle that held the blood of Christ in the newly instituted sacrament of the Eucharist."
According to the Oxford English Dictionary (and many other sources) it wasn't a cup and it wasn't at the last supper. So one wonders about experts like this.
From the OED:
the (Holy) Grail, the Saint Grail or sangrail: in mediæval legend, the platter used by our Saviour at the Last Supper, in which Joseph of Arimathea received the Saviour's blood at the cross.
The fortunes of ‘the Holy Grail’ (OF. le saint graal, whence Malory has the corrupt form sancgreal: see sangrail), and the adventures undergone in the search for it by various knights of Arthur's Round Table, form an important part of the matter of mediæval romance. According to one story, it was brought by Joseph of Arimathea to Glastonbury (see the 14th cent. Joseph Arim., where it is called ‘þe dische wiþ þe blode’). Sometimes the Grail or Sangreal has been erroneously supposed to be the cup or chalice used at the Last Supper.
Did Jesus tell people to revere or worship relics?
picture here:
"http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/3946/santocaliz/"
He became fairly angry when they didn't revere sacred things set aside for God.
Fascinating--thanks for posting.
Fact: Indiana Jones atually found the grail and then dropped it in a flaming chasm (or something like that). He also had his wounded dad take a drink of water from the grail and dad was miraculously healed. I know this account to be as true as any previous allegations about the non-existent grail. Oh, by the way, Monty Python yet another plausible story about the grail. Gullibility reigns!
You are referring to the money-changing which Jesus didn't want going on in the temple. But the Bible is very clear about attaching worship to created things.
You left out the fact that the map to its location is written in disappearing ink on the back of the Declaration of Independence.
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