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This is for all people here who think Putin is pro-American..
1 posted on 11/29/2004 1:18:11 PM PST by b2stealth
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To: b2stealth
What a remarkably astute observation!

The Ukraine could be used just as we use Iraq: to keep troops, armaments and a presence in the area.

Russia signs treaties and conducts secret business with all our other enemies, why shouldn't we get even closer to their center of power?

2 posted on 11/29/2004 1:20:50 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: b2stealth
millions of dollars from US and EU

US and EU acting together on a project? Possible, but seems a stretch.

3 posted on 11/29/2004 1:21:14 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: b2stealth

Putin is ex-KGB...and not to be trusted.


4 posted on 11/29/2004 1:22:32 PM PST by Feiny (Scream if you love silence.)
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To: b2stealth
Who TF needs to fight them and needs a front to do it? They have their Chechens, and both these richly deserve one another.
6 posted on 11/29/2004 1:23:05 PM PST by GSlob
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Good. That's much better than Russia turning Ukraine into a FRONT to fight America..


8 posted on 11/29/2004 1:26:10 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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Why didn't he blame that on Europe and Canada who REJECTED the election results BEFORE US did.


9 posted on 11/29/2004 1:26:41 PM PST by The_Republican
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To: b2stealth

.......'Moore' has a new propaganda job?


10 posted on 11/29/2004 1:27:20 PM PST by maestro
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I have no animosity toward Russia or Russians or Putin for that matter.

Why would American want to fight Russia? If anything, a successful and prosperouos Russia will be a great benefit for America. Among other benefits, a free and prosperous Russia will be a counteracting power to China.

If the Russians don't start reproducing, they might lose Upper Manchuria and Siberia to China in a few decades.

11 posted on 11/29/2004 1:28:46 PM PST by george wythe
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To: b2stealth

Be happy we keep our tin-foilers well-chastised around here. I t seems that throughout the rest of the world including DU, the DNC, most of Europe, and apparently, the Russian Media they are rising to the top.


12 posted on 11/29/2004 1:28:55 PM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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Pootie Poot...anti American
Next thing ya know... Islam wont be a religion of peace
and illegal alien (terrorists) are just looking to do jobs...Americans aren't willing to do.


19 posted on 11/29/2004 1:47:35 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/399/14639_yushchenko.html


Pravda really is your friend! And in English too!


21 posted on 11/29/2004 1:52:26 PM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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Putin is pro-American..

Are we pro-Russia...? Why shouldn't we be?

Eastern Europe is a bridge too far for us. Our enemies are the Islamists, not Putin.

29 posted on 11/29/2004 4:38:48 PM PST by duckln
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A Letter to Maidan: How NTV Makes Its News
Added: Maidan-INFORM, 30-11-2004 02:21




Today I did not see many demonstrations and rallies in Donetsk, except for about a hundred of tipsy young guys in their late teens-early twenties at Lenin Square. They had plenty of Yanukovych support paraphernalia. Pretty drunk and fanatically fired up, they were running out to the street in front of the cars.

A Letter to Maidan:

Today I did not see many demonstrations and rallies in Donetsk, except for about a hundred of tipsy young guys in their late teens-early twenties at Lenin Square. They had plenty of Yanukovych support paraphernalia. Pretty drunk and fanatically fired up, they were running out to the street in front of the cars. The cars were honking at them and the crowd was happy about it. The highlight of the “rally” was two teenagers a la Beaves and Buthead who were agitating people to “go and yell for Yanukovych!”

Only on every 50th car (mostly taxi cabs) I noticed the tied ribbons; they honked to show their support. However, when passing through the square at night, I notice a truck with NTV (Russian main TV channel) logo with a satellite dish. I was quite surprised: Had a hundred of drunk teenagers attracted such attention?

Howeever, wait! 11.20.04; 20:25-20:50

Suddenly several cars stopped at the traffic light and blocked the traffic; the cars were decorated with the elections attributes. The most active among the drunk teenagers jumped on the first car.

Five minutes later the street was filled with 15-20 cars decorated with ribbons, stickers and flags. All the action was coordinated by a moderator with a loudspeaker. The traffic stopped. Then the moderator gave a command, and all the space between the cars was filled in with the Yanukovych fans who theatrically started waiving the flags and posters. And then – look! Reporters got out of the truck and shot a short report in 2-3 minutes.

10 minutes later the traffic was moving normally. 20 minutes later almost all the cars were gone. The unorganized circling and drunk yelling continued.

This is how NTV reporters are “making” their news. I won’t be surprised if they talk about “thousands of appalled Donetsk dwellers on the streets.”



URL:
http://maidan.org.ua/static/enews/1101774090.html

Íàäðóêîâàíî ç Ìàéäàíó. http://maidan.org.ua/


31 posted on 11/29/2004 5:11:31 PM PST by Agog
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