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What Really Happened?: Survey Results Debunk the Myths of 2004 Election
The Richmond TIMES-DISPATCH ^ | November 24, 2004 | JIM MCLAUGHLIN and JOHN MCLAUGHLIN

Posted on 11/29/2004 12:39:51 PM PST by neverdem

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To: highpockets
I voted for GWB because I believe him.

I didn't vote FOR W so much as I voted against John Fn sKerry, a man entirely UNFIT to be CinC. People are forgetting that, already. He was the monster put up against W. It was a fix, in that sense.

I was upset by W's grinning and tin ear in the debates, even though on substance he dominated Kerry, who got the backing of the LM. I thought W's campaign, led by 'boy genius' Karl Rove as Ann Coulter sarcastically refers to him, was an accident waiting for each day to dawn so they could snatch defeat out of victory.

But up to that point, W had shown a tendency to support conservative notion and people of faith. And with the Gonzales fiasco, his failure to criticize McCain for completely stepping over the line in calumniating the Swifties, his leftie convention, his backing of Spectre right into the chairmanship it turns out, his recent floating the amnesty notions for foreign nationals secretly in this country, and those BIZARRE Rovish statements just weeks, days, before the election concerning 'gay unions', it doesn't quite appear to be the same W as the one I thought was running at the beginning of the year.

But we'll see.

81 posted on 11/29/2004 11:33:46 PM PST by sevry
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To: Howlin
Fact: Bush beat John Kerry among Republicans 92 percent to 8 percent. There was virtually no such thing as a Kerry Republican in this election. Bush received 85 percent of the moderate Republican vote.

And how many millions of dollars in ads did Kerry spend trying to tell the public otherwise?

82 posted on 11/30/2004 1:38:29 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: sevry
I don't know what you're talking about.

Of course people of faith played a part, and many of them were putting social issues first in that decision. Many of them were also putting national security and the WOT efforts first. Many of them were also seeing this President attempt to restore the economy and keep the government from picking their pockets as much. But for most, it was all of the above....the total picture.

Contrary to what you may think, most people of faith aren't single issue voters. Those that are had long-since decided that Bush isn't a "real" conservative, and went the way of single-digit candidates.

No, the article isn't full and complete as to the story, but it's one of the better ones in terms of myth-busting.

83 posted on 11/30/2004 4:02:48 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: cyncooper; Peach; Dog Gone

Looks like Captain Photon hasn't been paying attention these past 4 years.


84 posted on 11/30/2004 4:06:52 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson

See 80 - is this jerk talkin' also talking about you two? What am I missing here?


85 posted on 11/30/2004 4:33:34 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
most people of faith aren't single issue voters.

Contrary to what you may think, the mere 'single issues', as you derisively term them, go to some of the worst crimes committed by humanity against Christ the King. It's important to those who fear and love Our Lord. The Faith matters to them, if not to others. A Protestant faith of sorts mattered to our founders. It was important to THEM. It was even foundational.

86 posted on 11/30/2004 5:54:55 PM PST by sevry
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To: buddyholly
I voted for President Bush and I voted against Senator Kerry.

It was a win-win situation!

87 posted on 11/30/2004 5:57:26 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: My2Cents; Admin Moderator
"Sadly," the Captain is no longer among the living.

Rats! I just got here!

Lost another one to "Mod-Tech"!

88 posted on 11/30/2004 6:02:02 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: sevry

Yes, they are important to those who fear the Lord. But as you certainly must know, most serve another master. Not all "conservative voters" are believers....remember?


89 posted on 11/30/2004 6:02:17 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Not all "conservative voters" are believers

They don't ultimately believe in what I confess, that's true. I'm a traditionalist Catholic. But I certainly think the vast majority consider themselves religious Protestants, along with the far fewer religious Catholics.

90 posted on 11/30/2004 6:21:00 PM PST by sevry
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To: sevry

Well, as you know - not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is a Christian. Hence, those in the Body of Christ, those who simply call themselves Christian, and even secular conservatives, voted for Bush for a variety of reasons.


91 posted on 11/30/2004 6:29:46 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is a Christian

I said religious Protestants and religious Catholics. That's sometimes used derisively by the liberals - those of the tolerance, etc. But I was careful to refer to those who take their religion seriously, as opposed to those who poll the same as any secular 'science' promoter or neo-pagan feminist.

92 posted on 11/30/2004 9:51:52 PM PST by sevry
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