Posted on 11/28/2004 8:36:34 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
Monday a week ago 26 persons, most of them Indonesians who had been granted amnesty, were arrested for assisting thousnds of Indonesian immigrants to apply for asylum and obtain false IDs. Investigators also came across nearly 1,900 fradulent residency certifications prepared for Indonesian immigrants.
Classic deceit and propaganda. They aren't immigrants. They're illegal aliens, nothing more. Deportation is not a punishment.
I'm sick and tired of the whole mess, we are being over run by illegals here where I live also, you go in to some of the local stores and you'd think you walked into Mexico! Why won't the people we put into office do something?!!!
The people in the federal government have done something. NAFTA was more than just a trade agreement. It was a way to integrate Mexico with us to bolster its corrupt political system and to provide a safety valve for the Mexican labor force by allowing illegal immigration to go unchallenged.
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In Pursuit of Western Hemispheric Integration
NAFTA became the biggest sub-regional integration project in the hemisphere and was the first to successfully integrate a Latin American country to an industrialized nation. Given the fact that it achieved a successful North-South form of integration, this system became an exemplary model in the international community and especially, in South America. The many benefits NAFTA felt prompted increased regionalism along the NAFTA-type, though, in the Western Hemisphere, many scholars argue that NAFTA also came at a cost to its members. Questioning emerged in both the Southern and Northern Hemispheres as to which NAFTA member benefited most from this integration scheme, and most importantly, if integration was a worthwhile proposition in the first place. For this reason, a critical debate emerged in the United States on whether or not these costs (such as displacement of workers and an increase in "unwanted" immigration) were worth the sub-regional effort. This debate has had a long-lasting affect on the United States’ perspective on free trade endeavors and a paralyzing affect on legislation facilitating agreement processes.
http://www1.appstate.edu/~stefanov/proceedings/debenedictis.htm
Once-Ler believes illegal immigration is the best thing since sliced bread as long as it provides cheap labor among other things. Check Once-Ler's comments on Immigrants Face Loss of Licenses in ID Crackdown.
They need to pass some zoning and occupancy permit laws in these communities, and *enforce* them.
LOL!!! I suppose I should count my blessings.
some of the big landlords have many houses that they have turned into illegal units. they get money from government programs for many of their tenants.
i don't understand the whole picture, but i think it is pretty incredible.
tax payers are paying absentee landlords to house people illegally, and if a repub candidate objects, he is completely villified.
the town supervisor in huntington switched from repub to dem after he was re-elected, because the dem machine controls the whole operation in huntington and gets the campaign donations from the landlords.
(i don't dispute your points, however. i don't doubt that there are some repub absentee landlords doing the same thing.)
i emphasized ILLEGAL immigration because the candidate that i was supporting was focusing on the legal aspects (mostly the illegal housing issue.) the dems and the dem media turned it into a racial issue, branded the guy a racist, and he lost.
i don't know where most repubs on LI stand on the issue--i am really only aware of repub attitudes in huntington.
i only SUSPECT that most LI repubs oppose illegal immigration; i don't know it for a fact. however, if i were running for office here, i doubt if i would focus on the issue in my campaign. it is something like advocating social security reform. it may be necessary, but that doesn't mean that you can win a political campaign by focusing on it.
i haven't seen any polling data on this issue for LI, so i am going by election results, which are not exact indicators on a specific issue.
I grew up in Kings Park.
Moved out west, and I'll never move back!
We have metric tons of illegals here in AZ - but it still beats the hell out of New York.
"Governments have responded to residents' complaints with bills intended either to accommodate the immigrants or to clamp down on them."
What a joke. The government responds by accomodating the criminal rather than booting them out.
If the RATS seize on the issue of illegal immigration and cutting spending, the GOP will be in huge trouble.
I live in NY and am disgusted with the GOP who refuses to do anything about it. If a personlike Mr. Levy ran for county executive I would vote for him.
As far as I am concerned, the most in your face problem facing me as a citizen every day is illegal aliens. It is destroying our society faster than the Japanese, Germans, or Communists ever could.
"I expect illegal immigration to be whooped into a frenzy by the mm the next four years and for another "strong" third party candidate to arise and be given massive media exposure, like Perot, while claiming to be against open borders. Like Perot, he will be nothing but a spy for the Clintons."
Exactly. It is inherently suspicious when the NY Times is championing immigration control, and discussing the quality-of-life costs of illegal immigration. There is some sort of hidden agenda.
I don't think it should be based on legal vs illegal as much as it is based on taxpayer dependent vs self-reliant. The fact is most Mexicans don't have the education or job skills that they can bring large extended families here without many of those family members being dependent on government programs.
Many of the legal immigrants here are well past retirement age --- brought in by family members who sponsor them but never follow through with the financial support of them. Sponsors should be required to obtain health insurance policies for their immigrants and put up for all the costs associated with them or the immigrant should be sent home. Some illegals might not commit felony document crimes --- just work for cash but leave the family back home where it's cheaper to support them.
The truth is we cannot take in the 80% of poverty stricken Mexicans and give them a nice life --- it's time that country make some over-do reforms and change it's ways so more of it's citizens can make it back home.
He is also a very slick racebaiter. Real slime.
Levy is the Suffolk County executive.
Its all lip service, the Dems won't do anything about this either. They will chase the illegals to some other location where they can gather for day labor jobs.
Long Islanders could cut the problem in half if they hired fellow citizens to do their lawns, clean their homes and refuse to hire contractors who hire illegals. Or they could do it themselves.
you can't expect individual citizens to start vetting all their contractors to make up for the government's willful lack of enforcement on illegal immigration - what are we supposed to do, ask the guy cutting the lawn for his green card?
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